Message from @Tech Talk
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I don't know for sure towelie
but I think their separatism is more about identity than economics
will they still be a part of the european union though ?
because as I said, if they leave EU at the same time, I'm gonna spend my money there
@Towelie
> but if I go to the USA (or any country outside europe), I can't pay with my euros...
Thats because the other country uses another currency lmao
>You can't keep europe advantages and throw away just the bad points
The first who is gonna benefit if other countries use euros is not the country itself but Europe, since the more usage of his currency the more valuable the currency is, money its not like a trademarked mickey mouse.
>when you create a new country, you have a new money, and it turns out that its value will be really low compared to any other money for international trades and whatnot. So if you import anything, you're going to pay it the high price
Not if we still use euros
>now if your newly created country decide to stay in EU, well, I don't see any huge reasons to part with the rest of Spain...
You clearly have no idea what are you talking about, Catalonia could be a top 10 in the European economy ranking, but with the economical opression spain is pushing against us we are not living like if we were independent, all of us Catalonians are paying half our salaries to pay poor CCAA on spain, and we still have average lifes with the money that we have left. Also this is not a new thing, this independent ideology was from back then when the dictator franco was still alive, the Basque Country had fields and farmers so it was obviously gonna create a revolution with ETA against it but we had workers and we lived in big cities, so the revolution wasn't gonna happen here, but the idea of the independence continued until this last years when the spanish state firstly destroyed poor CCAA with big corruption scandals and lost money like valencia or andalusia and then to compensate this told Catalonia and the Basque Country to pay all of that since we have the strongest economy in spain, also Catalonia works different from other CCAA, we have our own govern, La Generalitat, and our own laws apart from spain, and since Europe would be stupid if it didn't want us in, since we would still be richer that most of other countries, your points about a new currency are obsolete, but if it was the case we had to leave europe, we could still use the euro.
Andorra is not part from the EU
but they're using the euro as their currency
@Capuno#9390 man you are funny. Your last link give example of "countries", islands ect that aren't in the Europe Zone but are clearly part of EU, like Frances territories (French Guyana, Réunion island, St. Pierre & Miquelon, etc.). Those territories are literally a part of France and hence, a part of EU. For Andorra, you should read this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andorra%E2%80%93European_Union_relations and you'll see that they signed an agreement and are considered a part of EU, much like Vatican City, etc. As for your argument, it clearly shows that you aren't the most informed on that situation either. Let me give you a small example: Switzerland isn't part of EU, they could clearly take advantage to use the euro currency because of their geographical position but they can't and use the Swiss Franc currency. That's how it works. If you are a country that want to use the Euro currency, you HAVE TO be part of EU or at least sign agreements with the European Union that makes you legible for that. If your region decide to be independent, it could definitely stay a part of EU, but in the case where it decide to leave the EU at the same time, no, you wouldn't keep the Euro currency unless you decide to sign agreements that contributes to the EU.
Again I said that I lack information on your region situation, so needs to be condescending either. And if you think that EU wouldn't put pressure on a newly made country (if you guys decided to stay) is funny and delusional. Spain pressure might look pale in comparison...
The guy in charge of government ethics is too fed up of Trump's ethics violations and resigned
https://twitter.com/waltshaub/status/883007616435269632
I don't think you want to come on Mike Pence
That's straight to the zapper
https://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/7/8/1679048/-3-Pictures-explains-why-the-world-is-laughing-at-the-USA
https://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/7/8/1678950/-Trump-Sitting-Alone-At-G20-Meeting-The-Perfect-Metaphor
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/7/7/1678449/--Hawaii-Five-O-stars-quit-after-CBS-refused-to-pay-them-as-much-as-their-white-co-stars
the kid that grabbed her charging cellphone in her bath... I call that the new millennial's natural selection.
parent warning other about it looks like natural selection didn't do it's job completly too...
where is my daughter I NEED TO FIND MY DAUGHTER
I'd blame the death on the lowering standard for parenting rather than "millenials being millenials" or whatever else
In a more strict enviroment she would have never considered taking the phone into the bathroom
but that's just how I see it
I have no doubt some kid from the 80's died with a walkman in a bathtub or in a similar scenario..
Though I suppose darwinism may come into play..
a parent who raises their children poorly may see their children die, and so he won't have any more descendants.
not possible, a walkman works with AA battery, that's not enough electricity to die or even received a shock from that. Some people died with hairdryer and things like that though
and I mostly agree with you that it has to do with parenting. When I called it "millenials' natural selection", I meant that it's the new way to eliminate stupids from the society, not that it has to do with the girl who died being a millenial.
I never heard my parents telling me to not do that because it was dangerous but I knew it was. If your parent needs to tell you as a teenager that you should not put your hand in boiling water, it's not necessarily good parenting but more like you're stupid to begin with.
She would have been 6 or something I'd totally agree with you, but she was a teenager already... it's not so much a case of a bad parenting...
I didn't mean that the parents should've told her that something so obvious could have killed her
I was thinking that she shouldn't have been so attached to her phone to do something whilst being aware of the danger
well her parents are warning others that it's dangerous... just like something so obvious needs awareness...
but yeah, that's the part where I agree with you on the parenting.