Message from @Towelie

Discord ID: 292225065531998208


2017-03-17 09:11:39 UTC  

Thats just bullshit

2017-03-17 09:12:05 UTC  

every generation has differences, but every single generation that has ever existed has complained about the changes brought by the younger

2017-03-17 09:12:17 UTC  

this is not some new thing, complaining about young people

2017-03-17 09:12:26 UTC  

That's absolutely true

2017-03-17 09:12:29 UTC  

I think you have it backward chaos... respect should be a given to anybody, but if somebody do something to make you lose your respect in them, that's another story

2017-03-17 09:13:19 UTC  

See that depends on the type of respect you are asking for

2017-03-17 09:13:29 UTC  

I think the word is used wrongly in many contexts

2017-03-17 09:13:47 UTC  

like, normal, proper respect, common courtesy

2017-03-17 09:13:56 UTC  

things that the younger generation lack the most

2017-03-17 09:14:47 UTC  

and the type of respect that old conservative generations are asking for is an admiration of their seniority and an higher evaluation of their decisions based simply on that fact

2017-03-17 09:15:04 UTC  

not that of common courtesy

2017-03-17 09:15:45 UTC  

a better word for what you are talking about is simply "consideration for others" or "empathy"

2017-03-17 09:15:49 UTC  

not respect

2017-03-17 09:16:11 UTC  

well, for the most part, they worked their ass off all their life to raise their children, contributed to society like you are nothing close yet, senior deserve respect

2017-03-17 09:16:19 UTC  

no they don't

2017-03-17 09:16:22 UTC  

that's bullshit

2017-03-17 09:16:23 UTC  

now as for their decision, that's another story

2017-03-17 09:16:40 UTC  

people do not deserve respect just because they lived their life

2017-03-17 09:16:50 UTC  

for purpose of stable productive society which preserves institutions, respect for older generations is necessary

2017-03-17 09:17:08 UTC  

imo it dont matter if deserved or not, just necessity for functioning goodness

2017-03-17 09:18:04 UTC  

being considerate of other people is a form of respect, empathy, that's something different

2017-03-17 09:18:53 UTC  

respect isn't limited to good consideration you have of other people, but it's still a good begining

2017-03-17 09:19:08 UTC  

yup

2017-03-17 09:19:13 UTC  

Also I think you are full of shit for thinking that the current younger generation has less consideration for others than any of the previous generations, what a load of shit. Where did you come up with that idea? At maximum it is possible for you to know and assess innacuratedly the personality and traits of about 200 people that you directly come in contact with. And you think you can make accurate statements about the temperament of an entire generation of people?

2017-03-17 09:19:21 UTC  

What a load of crap

2017-03-17 09:19:42 UTC  

I have 3500 students, where you 200 comes from ?

2017-03-17 09:19:48 UTC  

lol

2017-03-17 09:19:53 UTC  

You don't know them individiually

2017-03-17 09:20:00 UTC  

you can't make any assesment of them

2017-03-17 09:20:39 UTC  

for sure I don't know them individually, but their general behavior is really far from the way i've been educated

2017-03-17 09:20:44 UTC  

The number comes from studies that estimated the average amount of people that a person can come into contact with and actually "know" although that definiton is not objective

2017-03-17 09:20:54 UTC  

but it's really irrellavent on that point

2017-03-17 09:21:06 UTC  

Lots of studies done on generations rlooking at their politics and economics and what not

2017-03-17 09:21:14 UTC  

that's a simple statement regarding what I've seen, not a general truth

2017-03-17 09:22:04 UTC  

still, I tend to believe that the behavior of the young generation nowadays is really far from the behavior of my parents and the people of their generation

2017-03-17 09:22:41 UTC  

What you've seen means nothing, you are making a statement of what you feel is the case, not what you have any ability to determine in any way. Basically your reason for believing the current generation has a certain temperament is purely anecdotal and illogical.

2017-03-17 09:23:16 UTC  

anecdotal, true, illogical, how so ?

2017-03-17 09:23:27 UTC  

this is being reduced to absurdity

2017-03-17 09:24:24 UTC  

after a certain number of anecdots, you can determine a general tendancy, how is that illogical ?

2017-03-17 09:25:05 UTC  

does that respresent every single people of the said generation ? of course not...

2017-03-17 09:25:24 UTC  

does the tendancy is illogical ? I fail to see why ?