Message from @revolver schnozelot

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2017-07-16 20:08:03 UTC  

I see it

2017-07-16 20:08:25 UTC  

Yeee

2017-07-16 20:08:29 UTC  

well there is similarities

2017-07-16 20:09:03 UTC  

the skull, the wings, the rounded logo, the text that that follow the rounded logo

2017-07-16 20:09:07 UTC  

but that's it

2017-07-16 20:10:03 UTC  

there's some of them that have the exact same attributes:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231228590174240769/336238069546221569/unknown.png

2017-07-16 20:14:52 UTC  

oh and @Tech Talk if checkboard 4k was a thing on PC, you'd not need 500 bucks to get that running...

2017-07-16 20:15:46 UTC  

My PC costed me 2K, it was pre-built

2017-07-16 20:16:00 UTC  

remove the checkboard from the Xbox one X, and it'd run natively at 4k, but 15fps.

2017-07-16 20:17:03 UTC  

you can get some PC that runs game at 4k over 15 fps for less than the One X price

2017-07-16 20:17:54 UTC  

there's no point comparing this console to PC because it doesn't do the same thing...

2017-07-16 20:18:07 UTC  

Checkboard 4k vs native 4k

2017-07-16 20:18:24 UTC  

one is lazy and calculate only a quarter of the pixel and extrapolate others

2017-07-16 20:18:35 UTC  

and one is doing the full job...

2017-07-16 20:19:35 UTC  

it's a bit more heavier than pure and simple upscale, but it's basically just the same principe all over again

2017-07-16 20:27:19 UTC  

@Tech Talk see the difference and why you would need more money for you Pre built PC ?

2017-07-16 20:27:31 UTC  

because it doesn't deliver the same thing ^^"

2017-07-16 20:28:15 UTC  

no matter how many time Microsoft is using the word native, what they are doing is nothing like that

2017-07-16 20:28:25 UTC  

It...really doesnt?

2017-07-16 20:28:43 UTC  

I mean the logos

2017-07-16 20:29:16 UTC  

I don't waste time putting in reaserch, buying separtate parts and learning to put it together

2017-07-16 20:29:34 UTC  

that's not my point, I can understand why you wouldn't do that

2017-07-16 20:31:06 UTC  

but the value of the PC you bought and its real value are differents, now if your PC was barely able to run 4k at 15fps, you'd have the same power more or less than a One X and you'd not have paid 2000 bucks for it, even pre built @Tech Talk

2017-07-16 20:32:35 UTC  

You say waste time but that time would have saved you money

2017-07-16 20:32:38 UTC  

so there's no point to compare the two of them if you don't compare them equally

2017-07-16 20:32:57 UTC  

yeah but time is money @dunce

2017-07-16 20:33:24 UTC  

wasting time researching is potentially wasting money 😉

2017-07-16 20:33:47 UTC  

which you then recoup after the research

2017-07-16 20:33:53 UTC  

endless loop

2017-07-16 20:34:32 UTC  

I know, but the point isn't really if he bought his PC pre built for 2000 or if he built it himself for 1400

2017-07-16 20:34:59 UTC  

His original point was that it's more expensive on PC to get console level performance

2017-07-16 20:35:02 UTC  

he's comparing the 4k capabilities of that PC with a console that deliver something else entierly

2017-07-16 20:35:06 UTC  

So it definitely is the point

2017-07-16 20:35:40 UTC  

checkerboard 4k has nothing to do with native 4k

2017-07-16 20:36:22 UTC  

so let's say he bought the part himself instead of contracting a company for that, he would have paid it 1400 or so instead of 2000

2017-07-16 20:36:44 UTC  

which lowers the entry point into pc gaming substantially

2017-07-16 20:36:47 UTC  

that would still be more expensive, no matter what, even if the total was 1000 bucks

2017-07-16 20:37:34 UTC  

but the fact that he's comparing it with a company that cheat people into selling "native 4k" is the real point

2017-07-16 20:37:55 UTC  

but as you said, the pc build actually is more powerful because it doesn't do fake 4k

2017-07-16 20:38:15 UTC  

it's not the traditionnal upscale technology, but it's still upscaling behind the scene...