Message from @Throttles

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2020-01-11 09:07:57 UTC  

you are beyond naive if you believe the entrenched powers that be will ever be relinquished of their power

2020-01-11 09:13:16 UTC  

imagine thinking a bunch of whiny hipsters have what it takes to seize power from anyone

2020-01-11 09:13:53 UTC  

a bunch of cunts that will vote for Bernie strictly because they got a bullshit degree and incurred a ton of debt for no reason

2020-01-11 09:14:08 UTC  

in the hopes that he'll erase their debt

2020-01-11 09:14:16 UTC  

how weak

2020-01-11 09:14:35 UTC  

and these are the people that are going to instill a socialist utopia?

2020-01-11 09:14:54 UTC  

By the labourers yes. Now tell me if that definition fits Venezuela.

I read through that quickly and l think the American dream is nonsense, but why do they only target Venezuela instead of Ecuador?

Venezuela has been having the US on its tail since the 50s, Operation Condor was a thing when Latin American countries attempted to nationalize their oil.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor

As for your other claims, this is completely refuted by historical/dialectical materialism as forwarded by Engels.

In society, there is always a thesis which is the current idea or people that hold power, then there is an antithesis which is the opposition to that idea and then comes the synthesis, where the two fight and one comes out victorious.

A good example is the medieval times - the thesis was the monarchy, the antithesis were the class concious peasants and the synthesis was the revolution

2020-01-11 09:15:20 UTC  

> in hoped he'll erase their debt

Yes that's why he supports MMT.

2020-01-11 09:15:31 UTC  

Because he thinks MMT will allow him to do this.

2020-01-11 09:15:42 UTC  

So again, critique MMT if you want to go into that.

2020-01-11 09:15:46 UTC  

Yeah, I guess he's a fucking magical wizard too

2020-01-11 09:15:58 UTC  

I take it as you concede.

2020-01-11 09:16:09 UTC  

I gave my reasons for not liking him

2020-01-11 09:16:24 UTC  

if you believe in fairy tales that's your problem

2020-01-11 09:16:45 UTC  

enjoy your zoo animals

2020-01-11 09:16:52 UTC  

No, they weren't reasons. Reasons are backed up by *reasoning*. You gave opinions, assertions.

2020-01-11 09:17:10 UTC  

Can you cite me where I said I believe in fairy tales

2020-01-11 09:17:44 UTC  

what's your reasoning for believing a bunch of whiny bitch hipsters can make a socialist utopia?

2020-01-11 09:17:56 UTC  

When did I say I believe that?

2020-01-11 09:18:00 UTC  

that doesn't involve eating zoo animals

2020-01-11 09:18:09 UTC  

And when does socialism entail a utopia

2020-01-11 09:19:15 UTC  

Sure worker co-ops, zapatistas

2020-01-11 09:19:28 UTC  

yawn

2020-01-11 09:19:47 UTC  

So you concede again.

2020-01-11 09:20:06 UTC  

And you still haven't given me citations of where I said any of these things.

2020-01-11 09:20:14 UTC  

So what this tells me is that you're lying.

2020-01-11 09:20:15 UTC  

are you trying to prove a point to me? I wish you'd get on with it

2020-01-11 09:20:21 UTC  

I already have.

2020-01-11 09:20:36 UTC  

that you are a naive bitch boi?

2020-01-11 09:20:39 UTC  

You have just been refuted so you ignore it.

2020-01-11 09:20:53 UTC  

See, you refuse to say the point I've made.

2020-01-11 09:20:59 UTC  

what point?

2020-01-11 09:21:01 UTC  

I'll give you three more chances.

2020-01-11 09:21:07 UTC  

And I'll give you a clue.

2020-01-11 09:21:09 UTC  

what is your fucking point?

2020-01-11 09:21:19 UTC  

It's got to do with you.

2020-01-11 09:21:25 UTC  

Now induce something.

2020-01-11 09:21:30 UTC  

Three chances.

2020-01-11 09:21:48 UTC  

induce something?

2020-01-11 09:21:54 UTC  

tf are you talking about

2020-01-11 09:22:14 UTC  

you need a Speak n' Spell