Message from @Throttles

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2020-01-11 09:00:47 UTC  

you pussies are not revolutionaries

2020-01-11 09:01:42 UTC  

imagine believing modern socialists have what it takes to take power from the people who currently own and run the world

2020-01-11 09:01:56 UTC  

fucking delusional

2020-01-11 09:02:48 UTC  

@qwasi Why do you think socialism is stupid and what does Bernie have to do with it?

2020-01-11 09:03:18 UTC  

Bernie only claims to be a demsoc because he's an American politician, you rube

2020-01-11 09:03:28 UTC  

do you believe everything everyone says?

2020-01-11 09:03:33 UTC  

So you can't make an argument that he is a socialist.

2020-01-11 09:03:42 UTC  

Okay, moving onto the next point.

2020-01-11 09:03:54 UTC  

sure I can, he thinks Castro is the coolest guy that ever lived

2020-01-11 09:03:54 UTC  

Do you know what dialectical materialism is?

2020-01-11 09:04:15 UTC  

Okay, and? What makes that socialist in any way.

2020-01-11 09:04:24 UTC  

Can you tell me the definition of socialism.

2020-01-11 09:04:33 UTC  

he said Venezuela is where the real American dream is

2020-01-11 09:04:38 UTC  

Source.

2020-01-11 09:04:46 UTC  

Also tell me the definition of socialism.

2020-01-11 09:05:05 UTC  

you can't google the Venezuela thing?

2020-01-11 09:05:15 UTC  

So you fail to provide a source, okay.

2020-01-11 09:05:31 UTC  

hang on you lazy pos

2020-01-11 09:05:35 UTC  

I can but I'm not obliged to - I only search things up when I respect the other person.

2020-01-11 09:06:21 UTC  

Okay, I will read through this.

2020-01-11 09:06:22 UTC  

How's Venezuela doing these days?

2020-01-11 09:06:29 UTC  

Whilst I do give me the definition of socialism.

2020-01-11 09:06:31 UTC  

you like eating zoo animals?

2020-01-11 09:07:03 UTC  

social ownership of the means of production, etc

2020-01-11 09:07:27 UTC  

IOW, an unattainable pipe dream

2020-01-11 09:07:57 UTC  

you are beyond naive if you believe the entrenched powers that be will ever be relinquished of their power

2020-01-11 09:13:16 UTC  

imagine thinking a bunch of whiny hipsters have what it takes to seize power from anyone

2020-01-11 09:13:53 UTC  

a bunch of cunts that will vote for Bernie strictly because they got a bullshit degree and incurred a ton of debt for no reason

2020-01-11 09:14:08 UTC  

in the hopes that he'll erase their debt

2020-01-11 09:14:16 UTC  

how weak

2020-01-11 09:14:35 UTC  

and these are the people that are going to instill a socialist utopia?

2020-01-11 09:14:54 UTC  

By the labourers yes. Now tell me if that definition fits Venezuela.

I read through that quickly and l think the American dream is nonsense, but why do they only target Venezuela instead of Ecuador?

Venezuela has been having the US on its tail since the 50s, Operation Condor was a thing when Latin American countries attempted to nationalize their oil.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor

As for your other claims, this is completely refuted by historical/dialectical materialism as forwarded by Engels.

In society, there is always a thesis which is the current idea or people that hold power, then there is an antithesis which is the opposition to that idea and then comes the synthesis, where the two fight and one comes out victorious.

A good example is the medieval times - the thesis was the monarchy, the antithesis were the class concious peasants and the synthesis was the revolution

2020-01-11 09:15:20 UTC  

> in hoped he'll erase their debt

Yes that's why he supports MMT.

2020-01-11 09:15:31 UTC  

Because he thinks MMT will allow him to do this.

2020-01-11 09:15:42 UTC  

So again, critique MMT if you want to go into that.

2020-01-11 09:15:46 UTC  

Yeah, I guess he's a fucking magical wizard too

2020-01-11 09:15:58 UTC  

I take it as you concede.

2020-01-11 09:16:09 UTC  

I gave my reasons for not liking him

2020-01-11 09:16:24 UTC  

if you believe in fairy tales that's your problem

2020-01-11 09:16:45 UTC  

enjoy your zoo animals