yes

@F-Star hows imperialism considered a bad thing before the idea of ethnic self-determination

LOL

@bvrgr🍔 can i join in? i like to think of myself as a highly intelligent being

@MrSpac i dont know what that means

>imperialism necessarily being bad

Born and raised in istanbul

Ethno nationalism

The idea behind it

@a lone father k hi father k

your turkish?

what about it

Is ethnic self determination

Grosssssssss

ok

i played payday 2 with a turk once

it was fun

So whys imperialism before nationalism is a bad thing?

before?

based erdogan hating turk

Umayads taught Europeans sanitation FACT

Yes

i dont know what you mean by before

Every nation was imperialistic and opportunistic before early 20tg century

@Mord you see here the Floridian in its natural habitat

@Mord dont tell me thats real

You implied that ottomans were evil because imperialism

everyone doing something doesnt make it right

Imperialism and opportunism is fine as long as europeans do it

Imperialism can be bad, it depends.

It's not necessarily bad.

Yeah but i said how were ottomans bad compared to other nation states at the time

also, national self-determination is at odds with imperialism because it steals another nationality's own sovereign right to self determination

but when someone I disagree with ideologically, culturally or biologically does it, they are evil

@F-Star thats ehat i meant

I am seeing a lot of blocked messages

i didnt compare the ottomans to any of their contemporaries @MrSpac

one of the thots must be talking

thus they are placed lower in the hiararchy of civilisations