hey kid, want to mail turks to federal buildings ?

at the same no matter how many other empires do something evil, if you're doing evil you're still evil

turks aren't even really turks, is the fun thing

most of their DNA is arabic and other semitic peoples

real turkmen live in turkmenistan and other central asian countries

But living under ottoman rule about 1600s is better than living under most nation in history

LOL

x to doubt

Ust like archaic persian empire were quite tolerant for their times

Yeah having your ports blockaded, your island raped

the persians were an empire of satrapies who all paid duties and levies to the shahanshah, or king of kings

Women sold into slavery

it is an entirely different system

@F-Star you have to admit though, a lot of people here will be inconsistent with this application of morals

just because the shahanshah didn't subjugate the lesser kings very much, doesn't mean that the lesser kings themselves weren't tyrants

a lot of people are stoopid

Very honorable war expansion doctrine

@Emanon i compared the life of a lower class person between those empires

well then that still entirely depends

@bvrgr🍔 ottomans were ok with breaking morals if it meant it was for the greater good

for example in the ottoman empire a lower class person who wasn't a muslim would have a very different life from a lower class muslim

Yeah

the ottomans pressed a lot of balkan christians into military service as the janissaries

either that or used them as oarsmen on galleys

not that different, you are aware for several centuries non chrisrians were not allowed to own property in medieval Europe

1 male child from every family i think

But think about drafting

Its much worse than that

only to keep the jews at bay 😏

the modern draft system is retarded in most countries, I don't disagree

Ottomans sucked off jews

When europeans do it, its epic

when turks do it, GRR DEGEN GRR

Europeans didn't

men can get drafted but not women, in the us

"muh empowered wymyn"

K you sound triggered for some reason

They did

"oh but I don't wanna fight"