Message from @Komrade Kam
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Morality is just bullshit, right man. You have a good day.
It is
lol i disagree on that
how did this become a salt battle lol
science proves stuff
If you truly believe that then, wow. There is a point in a discussion where somebody is so radically different that finding common ground is impossible
we did find common ground
late term abortions are wrong
Believing that morals are pointless in a discussion regarding the morality of potential live is just a waste of time. We did, ashnaa, but not komrade
yeah
You make your morals
Of course make your own morals. Does that mean they don't matter?
If you don't have morals then what do you have to base decisions off of?
instinct
logic
yes, morality is subjective, so it can be complicated but it's not useless
I have basic morals, for this however I base my decision on the science we've found
there are other things that are factors of decision making, but morality is definitely a factor
You can't hide behind science as an excuse for not having morals lol, both are incredibly important to how we function
ok so your point is science > morals, which i agree with to a certain extent
Science does not drive an agenda, you cannot make an abstract decision because science told you so. Science tells you *how* and *why* , what you do with that information is where morals come in
Science is just the proof to your own moral code
If you dont agree on morals any science present to argue the other side is invalid
Science shows they're not living in the first trimester
And that's why I tend not to argue about what is or is not alive, because in my mind ***that does not matter, what matters is the clearly defined potential for life***
That is a moral view, that I hold, which has nothing to do with the science behind whether or not a fetus is alive
science doesn't change your morals
Exactly, yes.
Science only proves morals
yeah
the inconsistency or not
Then I showed that the potential life being preserved damage the already existing life present
No, that was the weakest point you made during the entire discussion
your morals = killing a living being is wrong. science = fetuses aren't living. all that proves is killing fetuses is NOT immoral
there ^^
How so??
If, theoretically, potential life is enough, then harming somebody's social or economic status is not justification for ending it especially when this isn't even the case
oh so potential life is not life?
No? I never claimed it to be, the only reason I participated in the "is it life" discussion was to humor the conversation
science doesn't impact your morals, it impacts the actions and decisions you believe to be moral or immoral