Message from @lokiodinson
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Let them delete themselves
@bighmmmm republicans are usually pro life but a single aspect doesn't make you non-conservative
I joined this discord to really get an understanding of this side of politics, Only good things I've heard are from Fox news and everything else is "Donald trump supporters are racist!" from other news channels, I try to find opinion articles that make sense, but most of them are heavily biased. What im here to ask is, Im Pro-Life and am a Democrat but feel stranded with other Democrats, because I'm the only Pro-Life. Then I talk with Republicans, I have so much alike with them, but then I get stumped when I get to the talking point of Immigration, as I am a Immigrant myself. Thats where it usually stops being a conversation and starts to become and arguement.
Im just here to ask, What is some of your opinions on immigration. Should we close the border completely and not allow immigrants, or should we still allow immigration but have it more strict. I've heard both from Republicans/Trump Supporters
Immigration is a policy position like any other, if we’re being honest.
immigration should be allowed
just not extensively and not illegally
An immigration position that benefits the American people should neither be complicated nor controversial.
if we COMPLETELY shut down immigration that would be a violation of the human rights
True ^
immigrants need to be vetted, we want the good ones, not the bad ones
yes ^^
Yet, the American people have been guilted into believing that the only default for immigration is unrestricted immigration without regards to skill or actual contribution to our society.
we don't need any more criminal immigrants
we need those with good history
and who actually believe in the american ideals
of starting their life in a free nation
So accordingly, we’re unable to enact any type of reasonable immigration program, namely one that would reduce inflow and emphasize skills, in small part because we are wedded to rhetoric of Ellis Island regardless of it applicability or relevancy.
I for one favor a complete immigration moratorium.
I personally, came from Africa. We were heavilly interrogated and even 1 incorrect statement that doesnt match up with other interviews and they deny our application. I'd like to see **that** in the US. The rest of my family came through that way and every single one has a job and has no criminal record.
Regardless of where you are on the economic ladder, you don’t deserve to be replaced by some ringer
But that’s just my view.
the reason democrat politicians pander towards illegal immigrants so much is 100% for votes... democrat politicians don't give a single flying fuck about a single one of those people... it's all for show... democrat politicians only care about power
@lokiodinson EXACTLY
democrats farm voters
that way
when you realize this @NotKOALA you will begin to see the truth of american politics for what it really is
Yeah
dont like immigrants coming here against the law and costing the US hundreds of billions of dollars? racist
and how so many people (democrats) have been tricked by the corrupt politicians (and media) they listen to
Then there's another problem in my heart that irritates me, I dont want to associate with a party that had a history not so long ago with Segregation and things that were very. very. dark.
but then at the same time,
Abraham was a republican.
But then again
The party has changed.
A LOT**
of course some republicans are also susceptible to manipulation by republican politicians (and media) but it isn't NEARLY as bad as the democrat side right now
What would be something thats bad about the Democratic side right now @lokiodinson
All I think is bad
is that a majority of Democrats, are Pro Choice
which breaks my heart so much
cause I agree with some things those politicians say until they get to the talk about abortion
>shutting down immigration is a violation of human rights