Message from @Bandolier
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i have nothing against nato if countries pay their share, which most do
looking at information that other guy provided, america first you went from 22% to 16% of total nato budget
but its not like the budget itself dropped for nato
just other countries filled the void
i think i remember trump cutting their funding
from your side
but someone else has to fill it
i'm not american
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yeah someone else has to fill it
so its screwing over the other nato countries
probably damaged their trust in USA
Good. America first.
Thought you said you wanted to redistribute our military budget? Can't do that if we're paying for NATO, defending countries from non-existent threats on the other side of the ocean.
That said, you just admitted you're not American. So you can fuck right off. You have no say in this matter. Most here prefer private insurance; some have even seen people die in Canada or the UK when they could have been treated in the US.
me having no democratic say in america's government doesn't mean I can't criticise it
do you think the millions of uninsured and the thousands bankrupted by an inefficient system prefer private?
if you say that those people are not your problem, they are. because public health was first invented because people realise having a 100% healthy population, without a massive cesspool of poor people with no healthcare, is better to stop disease spreading
@DiDozen you can find this information if you type it into google. But you still haven't because you dont bother to learn the actual numbers and realize you're wrong
I cant help you if you're gonna keep being ignorant
¯\\_(ツ)\_/¯
have u tried not being such a smug prick when you're actually wrong
>Most of the money is being spend on Medicare Medicaid and social security. That leaves only about 7% of the money left
literally incorrect by this chart
those 3 things add up to 60%
@Bandolier i can't help you if you're gonna keep being ignorant.
Do you know what the meaning of mandatory and discretionary spending is?
Mandatory spending is used on other things besides medicare Medicaid and social security
The left over money, the discretionary spending, is not enough to support the things you spoke of last night
Moreover, that whole slice of 21% is the interest the US has to pay on the debt that its accumulated
So 21 + 27 + 23 + 10 +7 = 88% of the money gone
We also tack defense on there too, but that's only a small 5%, dwarfed by the rest of the numbers
So as I said and you quoted... most of the money (here most means >50%) is being spent on social security, medicare and medicaid, leaving a very small amount of money to be spent where the US pleases
what does that 21% have to do with medicare, medicaid or social security
where i quoted you you said those three things left only 7% of mandatory spending left
when it doesn't
and if by "the things you spoke of" you mean medicare for all, it's literally cheaper than the current system, so it would in fact replace the medicare/medicaid areas with a smaller piece of the pie
21% has to do with the fact that the USA has no money left to implement any new stuff. Do you think Medicare for all is gonna be free to get going?
it's cheaper than the current system so effectively free
The startup cost of implementing an entire new system, not to mention the pay cut that all physicians will experience, job losses, and the fact that we just dont have enough doctors to support such a system, is gonna be extremely expensive
you do have enough doctors