That’s another difference between our ideologies, in that to a socialist, power is mainly, if not exclusively, represented in the material, when in reality it can take many forms

bro i just dont want swedens 50% income tax

That’s why they don’t see those with power like the lgb lobby as having power, as they are in the minority physically

well and with socialism the soul focus is always power struggles.

Indeed

having influence doesnt mean i have power though. most of the employees i've worked with, even shit tier employees had much more power than i ever did. Its true you get to talk to higher ups, but if you dont work well with bottom level workers you'll never get anything done.

People always bring up Sweden and it's like... it has 10 million people and they actually work. We have 350 million and half the country doesn't want to work. It's not as hunky dory as these commies have been gaslit to believe. Things cost money and the money will eventually run out, and companies/people will leave America if we tax them 50-80%.

@Doc Jinzo, PhD in Trap Negation how could an individual game the system

Reap the benefits and put in no work

That's not what a co op is lmao

Like a fat kid in his moms basement lying about looking for work

torched

No that’s what I’m saying. I’m saying smaller co ops work but when u try and force larger entities to adopt it they can’t keep track of everyone so some moochers might slip through

Gotta Drive home ttyl

Co Ops aren't just benefits

Aight safe travels

@saturn broker why do you prioritize mental labor over physical labor? Both sides are essential to the company

i dont but it could depend on what you quantify/qualify as labor.

on a very pragmatic, practical, less conceptual level.

there are organizations, jobs, degrees that are centered around determining the worth of labor. its not an easy thing to figure out. you cant prioritize it based on morally what you think is right. its a very objective process oftentimes.

a lot of higher paying jobs are mentally laborious because mental labor at higher levels provides a lot more value than hammering nails all day.

Is it true 50% of households in the US pay 0 federal tax?

lol can you be more specific with that? I want to say the bottom 50% pays about 2.38% of the federal tax revenue. i could definitely be wrong though.

Was watching dave ramsey but i found an article about it

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/81-million-americans-wont-pay-any-federal-income-taxes-this-year-heres-why-2018-04-16

interestings, didnt know there was a threshold that lets you...not pay fed taxes

well right away i'm confused. 76 million people isnt 44% of the population but maybe im reading it wrong. but there are some households that i think qualify for being tax exempt

i think its usually poorer people.

good points

tax stats, laws and data are always a headache.

ahh theres a difference between federal income tax and income tax in general

Just be a communist bro

im a new yorker, im a communist as far as the electoral college is concerned

Kek

@andy yes. The bottom 49% of the US pay zero federal tax

if we become full blown socialist, the best rebellion strategy could be to just become an absolute sandbag of a human being. its my right to get free stuff so i want my comrades to do the same.

Bottom 49% of workers or the population including kids and babies?

Adults

Damn, you guys have it worse than Canada

Why why is da subreddit locked

another disturbing figure is that 51% of the US population is on the government dole in some form or fashion, whether government, military, social security, or welfare.

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