Message from @saturn broker

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2020-03-21 19:46:43 UTC  

my internet lag

2020-03-21 19:46:58 UTC  

But socialism is a totalitarian system so socialists think they get to claim it if it works

2020-03-21 19:47:13 UTC  

Lolbert cope. Trump was never a free-market Republican.

2020-03-21 19:47:24 UTC  

corona market

2020-03-21 19:47:29 UTC  

He's always been a populist. That includes populist economics.

2020-03-21 19:47:33 UTC  

but arent there also non totalitarian socialists? They confuse me, can someone help me out here

2020-03-21 19:47:41 UTC  

saatana

2020-03-21 19:47:49 UTC  

what is socialism

2020-03-21 19:48:37 UTC  

Socialism is inherently more statist, coming from a perspective of a statist myself. It's the first step to an anarchistic communist system in Marxist theory.

2020-03-21 19:49:46 UTC  

Socialism is poorly defined in general. It usually ends up with people just splitting hairs and making their own definitions

2020-03-21 19:50:42 UTC  

and whats the difference between socialism and communism

2020-03-21 19:50:51 UTC  

when you have an ideology that leaves room for that, it makes it easy to tie a different bow on top of it.

2020-03-21 19:51:10 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/665554472906391583/691011041043152998/1584671327291.jpg

2020-03-21 19:51:20 UTC  

It's poorly defined because nobody can define a proper plan that explains how the nuts and bolts of the plan will actually work

2020-03-21 19:51:35 UTC  

In Marxist theory, socialism is the step after revolution. It infers a socialist state will rise up to enforce wealth redistribution, public landownership, and that the state will assume the means of production. Communism is the step after socialism, where the workers, as a class, assume full control. This is anarchy, there's no government at this point.

2020-03-21 19:51:37 UTC  

Right there’s no pragmatic aspect

2020-03-21 19:51:45 UTC  

the enemy

2020-03-21 19:52:04 UTC  

wow thank you for that informative definition allegory, i sure did learn something

2020-03-21 19:52:29 UTC  

I got locked out of typing or something becayse of slow mode maybe

2020-03-21 19:52:32 UTC  

@christiam and whats the difference between democratic socialists and true socialists

2020-03-21 19:52:33 UTC  

Well you could try reading a book or two if you want to learn more

2020-03-21 19:52:48 UTC  

do i really wanna give money to leftie organisations tho

2020-03-21 19:53:42 UTC  

That’s entirely up to your voluntary actions and incentives.

2020-03-21 19:53:46 UTC  

Democratic Socialists are just socialists who reject totalitarianism, but still want economic redistribution.

2020-03-21 19:53:57 UTC  

Companies will just make them then. Like uk is doing. Spirit and perfume factorys are making hand sanitizer @Allegory

2020-03-21 19:54:30 UTC  

Cos that is where the money is. Same as drugs

2020-03-21 19:55:09 UTC  

capitalism at its best <:trumpwitchlul:624684793422020624>

2020-03-21 19:55:25 UTC  

Yeah the west will find a way

2020-03-21 19:55:41 UTC  

but still more threats

2020-03-21 19:56:37 UTC  

Hello

2020-03-21 19:56:45 UTC  

@AgentNed♡ go away weeb

2020-03-21 19:57:01 UTC  
2020-03-21 19:57:18 UTC  

😂👌

2020-03-21 19:57:24 UTC  

did bernie delete his every American should get 2000 dollars a month until this is over tweet

2020-03-21 19:59:55 UTC  

It's still there

2020-03-21 20:00:54 UTC  

notice how its every person in America not every American

2020-03-21 20:01:40 UTC  

So many people don’t deserve that money lol

2020-03-21 20:01:41 UTC  

Can you imagine the level of fraud that would go on

2020-03-21 20:01:56 UTC  

How the hell can that even happen without massive frickin inflation