Message from @Crow

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2018-08-28 18:06:14 UTC  

You think?

2018-08-28 18:17:41 UTC  

If that gun used Trounds it might actually be a workable design. Dardick Tround guns had both a magazine and revolving cylinder of sorts

2018-08-28 18:17:49 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467577750325297162/484064077493305358/dardick_pistol.jpg

2018-08-28 18:19:12 UTC  

The text implies that that it is unrelated to any actual firearms design in reality

2018-08-28 19:36:12 UTC  

Huh, that is a nifty concept, I remember seeing a gun in Ergo Proxy that is mostly a handle, that has the capacity & fire rate of a semi-auto pistol

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467577750325297162/484083802931724298/latest.png

2018-08-28 19:39:04 UTC  

I wondered if there is a to make a mechanism that compact that would allow it to work, something like a Luger:
http://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/luger-gif-1.gif

2018-08-28 19:40:05 UTC  

It could work as a simple blowback if you use a heavy spring

2018-08-28 19:43:29 UTC  

A revolver concept is another maybe with the images I see above images above, though of course it is one thing for something to work in concept & another in action.

2018-08-28 20:22:13 UTC  

hmm... you'd sacrifice much of what is normally magazine capacity , you're not getting more than a few rounds in there, so a revolver isn't an awful idea

2018-08-28 20:23:39 UTC  

oh

2018-08-28 20:23:45 UTC  

I thought you meant a regular revolver

2018-08-28 20:54:41 UTC  

Idea #1: gyrojet with electrical primer. These could more or less be fired straight out of a magazine and into a very short barrel. All you'd have to squeeze into the grip still is battery and it could fire as quickly as the capacitor can charge

2018-08-28 20:58:04 UTC  

Idea #2: with conventional cartridges, you can use a setup similar to the Dardick handgun above but without "Trounds". Simply make make it belt-fed, just a short belt. And just go from there, regular revolver with no/minimal barrel

2018-08-28 20:58:50 UTC  

Can do. Just not legally.

2018-08-28 20:58:59 UTC  

Well, I can't, anyways.

2018-08-28 20:59:51 UTC  

laws are entirely dependant on what country you're even in, I wasn't even taking that into consideration, only looking at the practical aspects

2018-08-28 21:00:59 UTC  

No, I meant I can't (legally) *make* one

2018-08-28 21:01:00 UTC  

There are a few reasons why Gyrojets never made it on the open market Cwow.

2018-08-28 21:01:15 UTC  

The concept totally works

2018-08-28 21:02:57 UTC  

In practice, Gyrojets never have sufficient accuracy for effective use in the field and never have effective terminal ballistic effect in most engagements.

2018-08-28 21:03:17 UTC  

and they're fairly expensive... I know

2018-08-28 21:03:46 UTC  

Orders of magnatude expensive compared to traditional rounds

2018-08-28 21:03:53 UTC  

ye

2018-08-28 21:05:23 UTC  

Now if you were to go about making a Anti-Material Rifle using Gyrojets that would better fit the performance profile of the round better

2018-08-28 21:05:25 UTC  

now, the original gyrojet were made in the 60's, so I'm sure some improvements could be made there

2018-08-28 21:06:35 UTC  

and accuracy isn't a huge issue for a gun made to not be significantly larger than a magazine, you won't have room for proper sights on the thing

2018-08-28 21:07:12 UTC  

the main concerns seems like price and the issue of terminal ballistics at the only range where something like this would be practical - very short range

2018-08-28 21:07:31 UTC  

In the inner ranges where accuracy is not a problem you have the problem of not enough velocity.

2018-08-28 21:07:37 UTC  

so I'm probably more in favor of a belt-fed revolver-like

2018-08-28 21:08:23 UTC  

surely we have better propellant solutions than in the 60's?

2018-08-28 21:08:36 UTC  

I don't know if anyone has experimented with gyrojet since then

2018-08-28 21:08:46 UTC  

One report stated that a soldier testing the Gyrojet pistol was shot in the leg at a range of six inches, and only suffered bruising.

2018-08-28 21:10:12 UTC  

It's a fundimental problem Cwow, becuse it is a rocket, in the first few feet of travel it is still working on over coming inertia.

2018-08-28 21:12:16 UTC  

clearly what we need to do is turn each shot into a micro-missile guided by your slick 2040's augmented-reality shades

2018-08-28 21:12:28 UTC  

You would actually be better off with a bunch of nails and a .22 blank gun luanching them.

2018-08-28 21:13:58 UTC  

yeah but you can't fire .22 blanks and nails straight out of the magazine without worry, which is the only reason I went with gyroc as a potential way to do it

2018-08-28 21:16:09 UTC  

I think we could make a harmonica system for this pretty easy

2018-08-28 21:17:07 UTC  

Here we go

2018-08-28 21:21:35 UTC  

That's just a staple gun though, with nails instead of staples
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/411Ee2SCyEL._SX425_.jpg