Message from @Chlodovech
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I've got a feeling you're debating for the sake of debating. What is to be gained from this? I'm just a bloke that casually came by and saw that video and thought: ''oh great another one of those commentators with a sunglassed persona, like we didn't have enough of those.''
So if tim had a cartoon avatar with sunglasses what he said would be of no interest to you.
Perhaps their opinions aren't less valid. For me it was about presentation.\
Well mostly because authentic journalists don't portray themselves as such.
I don't see Kraut and Tea walking out on the street interviewing people, due to anonimity. Which is why those people use personas to begin with.
You mean like Ben Shaperio and David Pakman?
They want to be anonymous and thereby are confined to the internet.
Those beacons of objectivity.
Ben Shapiro isn't a journalist
Neither is David Pakman.
consitering steve crowder goes to the street and even he isint honest im not sure thats grounds for being trustworthy
But they report facts.
Okay.
From the start it was about me having a preference for people that are engaged on the streets, aren't anonymous internet users, and emphasize being objective and reporting news.
That's really all I can say.
Non of that has anything to do with opinion.
Exactly.
Precisely.
So why did you demean their ability to have a valid one?
I didn't.
"They're not great thinkers, they're not informed scholars, they're just random plebs with opinions just like the rest of us"
Listen, you must understand that this conversation can't go anywhere because we both have a different interpretation on what it means to demean something
Yes.
That wasn't an insult
I said they were as valid as I am because all they do is give their opinions on things, but not doing any actual reporting.
This is an implication that their are people whom we should listen to instead.
Depends on what you're looking for
Who are great thinkers, informed scholars, and not just random plebs.
This is an implication that I prefer people that actually do any reporting
on the field, etc.
All those things that i've already said.
And there's that
Right so WHAT makes someone worth listening to.
Uh
No it's not.
When you say that, you're making a value judgment that some opinions are better than others.
Okay, for instance if you're looking for good history you'll want to read from a historian that's actually looked into medieval manuscripts and first-hand sources, rather than following one of the many history channels or wikipedia.
And in the case of news, if you want news I'll want to learn it from someone that's a journalist and emphasizes being objective
Some people are more reliable than others. That's a value judgement.
So his opinion was on video games, and consumers of video games and as a consumer of video games and long time player of them he his opinion is more valid than most?
Uh his opinion is more valid than someone that's never played video games.