Message from @Dennafen

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2018-06-10 21:24:23 UTC  

Truth claims aren't opinions.

2018-06-10 21:24:26 UTC  

Oh I didnt watch the video I just saw the thumbnail and already knew I didnt like it purely for its presentation.

2018-06-10 21:24:37 UTC  

Sure.

2018-06-10 21:24:44 UTC  

Two people can be working with the exact same facts and come up with totally different opinions.

2018-06-10 21:24:53 UTC  

Different conclusions.

2018-06-10 21:25:02 UTC  

No opinions.

2018-06-10 21:25:21 UTC  

Opinions as to explain the facts.

2018-06-10 21:26:00 UTC  

Opinions are expressions of what is correct not what is factual.

2018-06-10 21:26:19 UTC  

What one ought to do as opposed to what one is.

2018-06-10 21:26:22 UTC  

I've got a feeling you're debating for the sake of debating. What is to be gained from this? I'm just a bloke that casually came by and saw that video and thought: ''oh great another one of those commentators with a sunglassed persona, like we didn't have enough of those.''

2018-06-10 21:27:36 UTC  

So if tim had a cartoon avatar with sunglasses what he said would be of no interest to you.

2018-06-10 21:27:37 UTC  

Perhaps their opinions aren't less valid. For me it was about presentation.\

2018-06-10 21:28:04 UTC  

Well mostly because authentic journalists don't portray themselves as such.

2018-06-10 21:28:30 UTC  

I don't see Kraut and Tea walking out on the street interviewing people, due to anonimity. Which is why those people use personas to begin with.

2018-06-10 21:28:33 UTC  

You mean like Ben Shaperio and David Pakman?

2018-06-10 21:28:40 UTC  

They want to be anonymous and thereby are confined to the internet.

2018-06-10 21:28:42 UTC  

Those beacons of objectivity.

2018-06-10 21:29:13 UTC  

Ben Shapiro isn't a journalist

2018-06-10 21:29:31 UTC  

Neither is David Pakman.

2018-06-10 21:29:32 UTC  

consitering steve crowder goes to the street and even he isint honest im not sure thats grounds for being trustworthy

2018-06-10 21:29:43 UTC  

But they report facts.

2018-06-10 21:29:46 UTC  

Okay.

2018-06-10 21:31:13 UTC  

From the start it was about me having a preference for people that are engaged on the streets, aren't anonymous internet users, and emphasize being objective and reporting news.

2018-06-10 21:31:17 UTC  

That's really all I can say.

2018-06-10 21:31:43 UTC  

Non of that has anything to do with opinion.

2018-06-10 21:31:49 UTC  

Exactly.

2018-06-10 21:31:50 UTC  

Precisely.

2018-06-10 21:32:09 UTC  

So why did you demean their ability to have a valid one?

2018-06-10 21:32:15 UTC  

I didn't.

2018-06-10 21:32:19 UTC  

This is your gripe with me

2018-06-10 21:32:42 UTC  

"They're not great thinkers, they're not informed scholars, they're just random plebs with opinions just like the rest of us"

2018-06-10 21:32:42 UTC  

Listen, you must understand that this conversation can't go anywhere because we both have a different interpretation on what it means to demean something

2018-06-10 21:32:47 UTC  

Yes.

2018-06-10 21:32:52 UTC  

That wasn't an insult

2018-06-10 21:33:06 UTC  

I said they were as valid as I am because all they do is give their opinions on things, but not doing any actual reporting.

2018-06-10 21:33:35 UTC  

This is an implication that their are people whom we should listen to instead.

2018-06-10 21:33:48 UTC  

Depends on what you're looking for

2018-06-10 21:33:53 UTC  

Who are great thinkers, informed scholars, and not just random plebs.

2018-06-10 21:33:58 UTC  

This is an implication that I prefer people that actually do any reporting

2018-06-10 21:33:59 UTC  

on the field, etc.

2018-06-10 21:34:05 UTC  

All those things that i've already said.