well either way it would be an interesting public debate

It would if you could get ppl to sit down and talk about reality rather than clutching pearls.

the tv debates would be retarded as usual, but if thats where the public spotlight is, it encourages discussion on more sensible forums

for example the debate about crypto currencies started off really retarded in mainstream media, but the debate is slowly changing to be more realistic

it's going from being associated to drugs and crime and being fringe, to being associated with wall street speculation and being mainstream

Yeah. But you will never get away from the pearl clutches about it being used for drugs and gangs. It is internet cash and there will always be a stooge put up to warn of it dangers.

Live debates don't work. They quickly turn into crowd pleasing, hyperbole and sound bites. This is why YT is so good. It's like the old days. You world write out your idea and reasons for it and release it to the world. Then I can write my response. There is no interruption and anyone can jump in at any point.

Live debate is fun to watch but in the end is only good for entertainment.

sure, i don't disagree

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lol

Inspired by Tim & Bunty

the protected classes are completely cherry picked

@NativeInterface here's us talking shit and we're missing Tim get down to the important stuff.

i know, thats why i brought it to <#398973785426100234>

yup, shame on you

Giving protected class's to fetishes is a slippery slope iyam

having any protected class is the same as privilege

^^^

I can see the need for protected class's but there needs to come a point when you say it is no longer needed. Like in the years after segregation, you still have a lot of ppl that don't agree. But after a generation or two you can look at removing it.

there is nothing as permanent as a temporary government solution

paraphrasing milton friedman

lol. Thats' true. I'm a Lefty, give me a break. A man can dream.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAUOPHqx5Gs

lol the road to hell is paved on good intentions

Are your intentions not good?

nah, i'm pro discrimination, hate speech, and child labor

tbf, so am I.

i'm trying to be brutally honest about what i'm advocating, and a lot of people don't like it

I worked as a kid. Paper round at 8. £2 a week. I was rich. Nothing wrong with that.

i find it ironic how people think it's more humane to force kids to sit and listen for hours about shit they may never even use as adults

rather than letting them have real world experiences

I'm going to have to disagree there. I don't think work should get in the way of school till the kid is 14/15. It not only long division you're learning.

it depends on what is being taught and how

Like is say, it's not just academics you are learning.

Spending time with your peers, locked in a building where only the strong or smart survive is good for you.

instead of a dictatorship model where the teacher preaches to a large class, you could have smaller groups with mentors that takes them out in real life and shows them what things look like
i think thats the model society used to have before prussian schooling became fashionable where you wanted to instill patriotic loyalty and shape their social identities by getting them to submit to authorities

the underground history of american education by john taylor gatto is a good book

I'll give it a look.

I'm all for flexable teaching. If a teacher can see that a kid is not going to get any grades but is going to do well on a building site, I have no problem with that kid never even seeing the inside of an exam room.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Taylor_Gatto

But thats why I say there should be a minimum age that they can drop out at about 13/14/15. You should at least try to see if they can.