Message from @Crow

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2018-08-25 14:52:28 UTC  

back when we had real nazis here with dyslexia

2018-08-25 14:52:54 UTC  

i think public schools are a disaster propyne for a thousand different reasons

2018-08-25 14:53:00 UTC  

What, were they gassing the juice?

2018-08-25 14:53:09 UTC  

but you need to be very specific with how you fix them

2018-08-25 14:53:27 UTC  

less you just make a different mess while cleaning the old one

2018-08-25 14:53:53 UTC  

Fair point.

2018-08-25 14:55:00 UTC  

An inherent problem with public schools is that parents will not believe their kids when a teacher is ACTUALLY shit at their job.

2018-08-25 14:55:15 UTC  

"Ah that's just kids being resentful of school! TEE HEE!"

2018-08-25 14:56:57 UTC  

You cant expect for parents to believe one kid. Especial if the teacher seems fine from the parents point of interaction

2018-08-25 14:57:15 UTC  

Right. I think they'd be much more inclined to question the methods if paying directly instead of through taxes, but that's hardly an all-encompassing solution

2018-08-25 14:57:18 UTC  

mccarthy didint solve the problem just like hitler didint solve the problem, just like lenin didint solve the problem. trying to exterminate ideas doesent work, at best you can exterminate genepools, but ideas exist because of envirnment. if you kill all the jews youll just have a sect of christians start acting jewish because theres a gap to fill in society, if you exterminate all the communists youll just have a sect of liberals calling themselves progressives start acting communist because theres a gap to fill in society. and ontop of that they will use victomhood as power against you when they return

2018-08-25 14:57:54 UTC  

What about homescooling

2018-08-25 14:58:49 UTC  

anyway if you can solve the problem without resorting to methods that only ended up giving power to the people causing us problems right now then im interested

2018-08-25 14:59:54 UTC  

Limit education to only factual science and forbid any of socio political teaching?

2018-08-25 15:01:08 UTC  

Would work in an ideal society, I think, but the culture in place will likely not do that any favors

2018-08-25 15:01:55 UTC  

If implemented prior to the infiltration and maintained throughout, that'd be one thing

2018-08-25 15:01:58 UTC  

Factual science... Do like... Maths and simple physics, as everything beyond that has a degree of abstraction built in?

2018-08-25 15:02:07 UTC  

Homeschooling doesn't solve shit for anyone else

2018-08-25 15:02:19 UTC  

And you need a parent at home to do it.

2018-08-25 15:02:26 UTC  

Essentially, the breadearner needs to be wealthy.

2018-08-25 15:02:30 UTC  

Our scientific models for what happens in a chemical model aren't factual, they're simplified models

2018-08-25 15:02:40 UTC  

Because most people only make ends meet by having two incomes.

2018-08-25 15:03:18 UTC  

(and yes, I know, maths isn't a science, but it's what you're stuck with if you're limited to being 100% undeniably factual)

2018-08-25 15:03:53 UTC  

the problem is that if you created a public system to educate children you need to figure out what it teaches children. we have no parents anymore, less than half of parents in america actually teach their children anything it seems. thus if a public education system just teaches children the streight facts, and parents arnt teaching them ideology, then you dont even need ideology in school to indocternate a society, culture and more importantly counter culture, and worse, fad culture, will indocternate your generation. thus you need to bring parents back, but you cant bring parents back by just lumping responcibility onto them because the problem with parents isint that they are good but just dont doing their job, its that they are shit and doing their job like shit

2018-08-25 15:04:52 UTC  

Exactly my point

2018-08-25 15:05:33 UTC  

Strengthening the family unit, be that nuclear or extended, either will do, would perhaps be a valuable first step. though I don't know how to accomplish this

2018-08-25 15:05:57 UTC  

what ive also described is a society on the verge of collapse. even if its economy is fine, its people are fucked

2018-08-25 15:06:27 UTC  

Daycare becoming an accepted part of the system is more of a crippling flaw than people are willing to recognize

2018-08-25 15:06:32 UTC  

Why the FUCK has daycare become so normal?

2018-08-25 15:06:34 UTC  

^

2018-08-25 15:06:36 UTC  

Who let this shit happen?

2018-08-25 15:06:39 UTC  

Seriously.

2018-08-25 15:06:41 UTC  

What the fuck.

2018-08-25 15:07:00 UTC  

People accept daycare because people accept that parents are so busy

2018-08-25 15:07:04 UTC  

Feminists, in order to free up the mother to work

2018-08-25 15:07:06 UTC  

**WHY?**

2018-08-25 15:07:35 UTC  

People want more money, they take on more jobs or have a job that they cant leave for long, so they leave a child to a daycare nanny

2018-08-25 15:07:47 UTC  

The daycare costs money.

2018-08-25 15:07:55 UTC  

And something far more important than money.

2018-08-25 15:08:01 UTC  

"want more money" more like people need to work more in order to maintain the same standard of living

2018-08-25 15:08:14 UTC  

but not all the money you earn doing work at that time