Message from @violetvenomkiss

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2020-04-06 19:13:51 UTC  

gowina

2020-04-06 19:20:14 UTC  

gowin is a funny figure

2020-04-06 19:35:36 UTC  

but what will he do (he've resigned)

2020-04-06 19:36:10 UTC  

* do u think that he would be capable to play edgy (hey if u hate pis so much... appoint me as PM)

2020-04-06 19:36:15 UTC  
2020-04-06 19:36:51 UTC  

unlikely, he's compromised

2020-04-06 19:37:42 UTC  

what would (he) do (in ur opinion)

2020-04-06 19:38:06 UTC  

* pis will try to move elections to may17....... and grodzki will freeze it too

2020-04-06 19:40:54 UTC  

sorry for being annoying @zgadnij

2020-04-06 19:41:49 UTC  

and what will happen with konfederacja

2020-04-06 19:42:59 UTC  

* they'll be as lunatic as they should be (antilgbt, antijew, antiabortion) *hey im crazier than pis*
* or they might be tempted to *look as normal conservatives + supporting the opposition*
> i'm asking coz jobbik've choiced the second option... and they're doing reaaaally ok

2020-04-06 19:50:46 UTC  

> >being jobbik
> >hey i'll bark that im homophobic coz its pop culture (muh fidesz)
> >hey why i've got this bat results
*real homophobes, real nazis, REAL fascists votes fidesz coz if they've more seats they could do more*

> >now i'll pretend to be a normal conservative
> >talk about corruption / attack the *homo sovieticus-lack of opportunities* / attrack young protest vote
> >i'll support the opposition (even if they're libs) coz my voters values this (they wont life fidesz)

2020-04-06 19:51:39 UTC  

i'm genuinely not in the loop anymore

2020-04-06 19:51:56 UTC  

anything can happen at this point

2020-04-06 19:52:36 UTC  

some fascists/quasi-fascists may branch off from konfederacja and act normal

2020-04-06 19:53:32 UTC  

but kf itself (iask coz i *imagine* that they're aware about jobbik)

2020-04-06 19:53:51 UTC  

and im thinking that hungarian scenario... its close to polish scenario

2020-04-06 19:55:19 UTC  

*hate-based (antigay/antijew...) parties're a failiure coz REAL fascists votes officialism)*
*haters will vote for officialists*
*haters 're calling u )kf/jobbik) closeted liberals (u're dividing hatervote)*

*if u neeed votes u neeed to attrack 'non-aligned youth' - moderate officialists*

2020-04-06 19:56:21 UTC  

@zgadnij teeell me if my premises (based at jobbik past are real)

2020-04-06 19:58:33 UTC  

I don't think that "real fascists vote for officialists," and I'm not sure what you mean

2020-04-06 19:58:44 UTC  

i'll gave u an example

2020-04-06 20:00:46 UTC  

>im homophobic + i value antigay parties - openly antigay policies
>pis+kf're offering this
>pis will surely go to sejm / kf .. maybe yes/maybe not
>if kf goes to sejm pis will lost votes (dhont method) + opposition might perform a gov
>so i'll vote pis + voting kf its equal as voting po

2020-04-06 20:00:56 UTC  

@zgadnij a voter like this

2020-04-06 20:02:44 UTC  

i think that "core" konfederacja voters are more reactionary than this, there's little strategy involved

2020-04-06 20:03:02 UTC  

"core" konfederacja voters think that prawo i sprawiedliwość are _a bunch of jews_

2020-04-06 20:03:16 UTC  

everyone else might as well just vote pis

2020-04-06 20:03:53 UTC  

but how much (of polish lunatics) could vote as this (voting kf = hurting pis performance_)

2020-04-06 20:04:35 UTC  

no idea, <8% of all eligible voters in total

2020-04-06 20:08:13 UTC  

it's inconsequential

2020-04-06 20:09:10 UTC  

you may be interested in what's just happened now in sejm

2020-04-06 20:09:23 UTC  

and (for some konfederacja mps_

2020-04-06 20:09:45 UTC  

forget about konfederacja

2020-04-06 20:09:45 UTC  

could this game (jobbikize) give benefits

2020-04-06 20:09:47 UTC  

for now

2020-04-06 20:09:54 UTC  

they're dead?

2020-04-06 20:11:25 UTC  

no, pis has just managed to pass a new law regarding presidential elections in an atrocious, antidemocratic manner

2020-04-06 20:12:04 UTC  

and... could the senate freeze it?

2020-04-06 20:12:06 UTC  

you'll hear more about tomorrow i guess but this is a new low

2020-04-06 20:12:08 UTC  

*muh 30 days*

2020-04-06 20:12:22 UTC  

there are fake signatures

2020-04-06 20:14:03 UTC  

from pis MPs who were confirmed absent on the day of the vote