no it isn't, I gave the example where the girl was 12

12 years old doesn't go under hebephilia

except it literally does **some** of the time

because **some** 12 year olds have entered puberty and look old for their age

that's where you started talking about 5 year old kids because you were afraid of losing the argument

which was never the topic

**other** 12 year olds are still prepubescent and look much younger than their peers

why the fuck do you insist on inexact terms like "underage" and "12 year old"?

what do you boys make of this?

how is "12 years old" inexact?

12 is practical and very exact from a legal sense, but woefully imprecise in a biological sense

in what definition of pedophilia that you use that having sex with a 12 year old _isn't_ pedophilia?

some 12 year olds have breasts and could conceivably look like 18 year olds in the right lighting

>having sex
????

having sex is an act, pedophilia is an attraction

so, can someone have sex with a 12 years old and not be a pedo?

yes

glad you went back on your loose use of labels, I guess my job here is done

he is always a child molester, mind you, but not necessarily a pedo

@ZlaX After all you aren't gay anymore!

why the fuck did you bring up sex all of a sudden as if that's somehow relevant?

I don't understand how you think it isn't relevant. It's the main point when discussing pedophilia

no it's not?

it's the main *worry* people tend to have when discussing pedophilia

if pedos only fapped to cp, no one would ever care about pedophilia

that a pedophile might be desperate enough that he goes out and haves sex = harms a child

someone still has to produce the CP, and that child actor/actress is likely suffering so it's still worth worrying about. The porn industry in general is pretty predatory and dragging children into it isn't a good idea

if a pedo only faps to loli hentai or other simulated child porn, then yeah, a lot of people don't care that much. Moral busibodies do care but eh.

simulated child porn is legal in a lot of places, especially the more civilized ones. Being a pedophile likewise isn't illegal, you can't really help being attracted to what you're attracted to and thoughts, even thoughts that lead to measurable physical changes, aren't illegal

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Belial why are you being so loose with the labels?

I got you to admit that a guy having sex with a kid isn't a pedo FROM that a guy fapping to a wall is into (necessarily aroused by) dry paint

my job here is done

you were the one that changed your position, which was my goal from the start

???

fapping **to** a wall, means the wall is the subject of your desires
fapping **to** a child, means the child is the subject of your desires
penetrating a fleshlight, while getting aroused **to** a 70's porno, means the material in the porno is the subject of your desires
penetrating a child, while getting aroused **to** a porno you're watching, means the material in the porno is the subject of your desires

nice mental gynastic 😂

"mister officer, I was thinking of a porn I watched last night while I was having sex with the child"