And later Nietzsche is much worse than early Nietzsche

Yikes

I have nothing against Nietzsche or Evola

Really annoying.

I doubt he has read more than austrian economics biblical texts

I’m not a fan of Evola, it doesn’t go anywhere productive, but it’s not bad per se

Evola is decent for personal philosophy afaik

I haven't read his stuff myself

I generally look down on stuff which asserts that eventually things will get better/you can do nothing

It's sedating

Yeah, Evola is certainly a masculine thinker

if you still want free trade between nations in this day and age you are a globo homo leftist

Protectionist policies kill small businesses

That's my main problem with tariffs, etc. It doesn't work as intended

At best you're sacrificing the many for the needs of a select few. You "save" one industry/company by damning the rest of the supply chain downstream of it.

Instead of shooting ourselves in the foot to spite china, we should be asking why companies would rather do business in the PRC over USA.

Because under free trade doing buisness in America is uncompetitive

You don't sacrifice other industries by maintaining car manufacturers, all you do is make cars more expensive

That's the one downside

Less competition is good for small buisness so idk why you think protectionism is bad for them

Guys guys, Global Stagnation through Permanent Despoliation Gang

Though I certainly would say that protecting steel would affect other industries negatively

Think of protectionism in terms of delayed gratification

You put up with higher costs now but the industries you create, grow and maintain are worth it in the long run

The state doesn't have perfect knowledge of the supply chains (and neither doe we, for that matter). It can't perfectly craft tariff policies in an efficient manner - at least not without unintended effects.

Also less competition may be good for a few select companies - not so good for everyone else though.

With less competition there is less incentive to improve.

Our local companies degenerate, becoming less innovative and efficient, charging more for their products, which hurts regular working people (and everyone else, eventually).

In essence, we become the economic equivalent of the island of Mauritius, and our local companies are the dodo birds.

The state doesn't have perfect knowledge and neither does capital. perfect knowledge is an arbitrarily high Bar for taking action. What does perfectly tariff even mean? The proper rate of the tariff or how well it's enforced?
What I said is less competition is better for smaller buisness when you were making the case protectionism hurts it.
Obviously there'd still be competition inside America if it stopped trading freely, gains from international rather than national competition are marginal at best and don't even get me started on how large companies act more like Inefficient corporate fiefdoms than something private anyway.

Do you believe Chinese companies are actually "efficient"

They are not

They're not competing on the grounds of technical expertise or efficient management

They're competing in cutting costs

So it doesn't matter that their steel manufacturing is actually vastly more Inefficient and backwards because they more than compensate by throwing cheap labour at it

The consequences of instituting tariffs on cars right now would be twofold. Car manufacturing would increase domestically and the cost of cars would increase marginally (though part of that increase in cost would actually generate revenue for the government )

Hell you could even use the revenue from tariffs to justify tax cuts

```What I said is less competition is better for smaller buisness when you were making the case protectionism hurts it.```
It's mostly the larger (American) businesses that usually benefit from tariffs - some smaller businesses might, if they are specifically chosen for protection. But every company down the line is going to face higher costs, which will butterfly throughout the economy. A few jobs are saved in one industry at the expense of a larger number in other industries.

```Do you believe Chinese companies are actually "efficient"```
I don't know, but they have managed to produce products at lower costs. One thing I do know is that, at least in certain special zones (Hong Kong, Macau, SEZ's, etc) they've had far less restrictive business environments than ours. Meanwhile the US economy has (for the most part) become more regulated over the years.
But we have an opportunity now - the combination of policy changes (crackdowns on Hong Kong, etc.) and a certain disease have made China a far less attractive place to do business. We could beat them at their own game by replicating and improving on some of the policies that made China an economic powerhouse in the first place - radical decentralization and deregulation. The US could easily establish hundreds of Hong Kongs and create a more attractive business environment than the PRC - or anyone else, for that matter.

```The consequences of instituting tariffs on cars right now would be twofold. Car manufacturing would increase domestically and the cost of cars would increase marginally```
Or domestic companies could just raise prices slightly below the tariffed companies' and gain higher profits without producing more.

```Hell you could even use the revenue from tariffs to justify tax cuts```
That's just replacing one tax with another.

Patchwork + Deregulation >>>>>Tariffs

(Sorry this took so long to type)