Message from @vexmasina44

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2020-02-09 22:34:29 UTC  

America is a hegemon and controls things indirectly

2020-02-09 22:35:02 UTC  

Say through sanctioning private companies aiding to build pipelines or that do buisness in Iran

2020-02-09 22:35:10 UTC  

Which the EU vehemently opposes

2020-02-09 22:36:04 UTC  

i doubt the american hegemon we would have then would open our borders wider than the EU already does

2020-02-09 22:37:03 UTC  

the EU has to go

2020-02-09 22:37:03 UTC  

You'll be able to see in Britain pretty soon but yeah it's not primarily abotu migration in this case but overall sovereignty

2020-02-09 22:37:47 UTC  

What use is a nationstate if America can drag you into its wars etc. dictate your trade policies, continue to culturally subvert you etc.

2020-02-09 22:38:06 UTC  

Doing away with the EU won't at all adress issues regarding to migration

2020-02-09 22:38:15 UTC  

And might actually make thigns harder

2020-02-09 22:38:33 UTC  

Since it's easier in principle to close the Schengen borders

2020-02-09 22:38:53 UTC  

It's jsut all the estbalishments in the major European countries are retarded

2020-02-09 22:39:02 UTC  

You will not convert the EU into a pan-european nationalist organisation

2020-02-09 22:39:23 UTC  

its the opposite of that right now

2020-02-09 22:39:25 UTC  

You're more than likely to get the Eu to close its border eventually

2020-02-09 22:39:49 UTC  

And Britain as it is leaving already has announced it will become more open to the world

2020-02-09 22:39:59 UTC  

Less Polish plumbers, more Pakis

2020-02-09 22:40:27 UTC  

No more EU dictats and protectionism, more whoring your economy out

2020-02-09 22:41:11 UTC  

Since even with Britain out its establishment is still fucked

2020-02-09 22:41:56 UTC  

I think the european identity as an in-group is too diverse and will not allow a strong resistence to out-groups

2020-02-09 22:44:19 UTC  

I disagree. There's a clear difference between intraeuropean migrant and Turks for one
The idea of a European/western civilization has been around for a while now and even lefties managed to make an appeal to it

2020-02-09 22:44:45 UTC  

We are diverse because we are accomplished

2020-02-09 22:45:52 UTC  

Europe has produced all sorts of wonderous cultural products, but nonetheless with those products within the context of an idea of christendom and later western civilization

2020-02-09 22:46:34 UTC  

In a way the watering down of culture through global Americanization has done away with a lot of distinctness

2020-02-09 22:47:14 UTC  

I don't have a problem with inter European diversify, except roaches and Gypsies

2020-02-09 22:47:36 UTC  

Yes, those aren't Europeans so understandable

2020-02-09 22:48:37 UTC  

gypsies,roaches and albanians were imported to europe by ottomans

2020-02-09 22:49:17 UTC  

Albanians are actually European but still

2020-02-09 22:49:19 UTC  

>roaches
>albanians
redundant

2020-02-09 22:49:23 UTC  

balkaners never got a chance to remove them because the western empires autisticaly screech whenever thy tried to address the demographic problem

2020-02-09 22:49:42 UTC  

its not that i have much of a problem with it beyond the damage it does to the survival of traditions, i just see it as a wasted parameter which one can discriminate against and use against non-europeans. For example language, facial shape, religion, culture, a certain tan etc

2020-02-09 22:49:44 UTC  

like in kosovo

2020-02-09 22:49:48 UTC  

We could have held them together

2020-02-09 22:49:54 UTC  

sort of

2020-02-09 22:50:23 UTC  

albanians are as european as mongols

2020-02-09 22:50:31 UTC  

I think people have a pretty clear notion of what is Europe/European Fighting

2020-02-09 22:50:37 UTC  

It's not that arbitrary

2020-02-09 22:51:34 UTC  

As far as genetics is concerned Europeans are a mixture of European hunter gatherers, Early European farmers and Indoeuropeans

2020-02-09 22:51:43 UTC  

It's not that hard to draw a line in the sand

2020-02-09 22:51:54 UTC  

There are edge cases of course

2020-02-09 22:52:01 UTC  

But it's far from arbitrary