Message from @Mr. Nessel

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2020-02-09 23:34:52 UTC  

no

2020-02-09 23:35:12 UTC  

Germany only needed the Ukraine and the Caucasus

2020-02-09 23:35:13 UTC  

not even romanian oil and sythiteic oil could cover germany's need

2020-02-09 23:35:24 UTC  

that was the whole point

2020-02-09 23:35:28 UTC  

but nooo

2020-02-09 23:35:38 UTC  

muuuhhh moskau

2020-02-09 23:35:44 UTC  

muhh leningrad

2020-02-09 23:35:57 UTC  

moscow was a symbolic gesture
they were fucked over by finns during the siege of leningrad

2020-02-09 23:36:17 UTC  

yeah and

2020-02-09 23:36:29 UTC  

they could never have won stalingrad since the reserves from siberia arrived just in time

2020-02-09 23:36:42 UTC  

useless waste of quality men

2020-02-09 23:36:53 UTC  

even in 41

2020-02-09 23:37:14 UTC  

they should have just gone all in the south

2020-02-09 23:38:36 UTC  

this might be just me, but i get the impression germany never wanted a war with western allies, they wanted a fair 1v1 fight vs soviet union to get their resources, the only problem in that was poland which was a protectorate of Uk/france, and germany already pissed them of with annexation of autria/czechoslovakia

2020-02-09 23:39:32 UTC  

poland was a proverbial red line

2020-02-09 23:39:38 UTC  

they wanted a war with Frenchie

2020-02-09 23:39:51 UTC  

the rest no

2020-02-09 23:40:25 UTC  

doubtfull, germany could win a 1v1 war with every countrry in europe at that time, but they knew britbongs would get involved if they attacked frenchies

2020-02-09 23:40:49 UTC  

yeah

2020-02-09 23:41:05 UTC  

but no modern war is a fair 1v1

2020-02-09 23:41:37 UTC  

Moscow was important to knock out because of the Russian rail network

2020-02-09 23:41:48 UTC  

germany tried every trick in the book to force Uk to sign an armistance
by bombing them into submission,having a U boat campaign and by actively trying to force them to negotiating table

2020-02-09 23:41:48 UTC  

yeah

2020-02-09 23:41:55 UTC  

after the South

2020-02-09 23:42:11 UTC  

reminder

2020-02-09 23:42:18 UTC  

13 peace offers

2020-02-09 23:42:26 UTC  

all of them rejected

2020-02-09 23:42:27 UTC  

Uk knew if they hold out long enough the yanks would get involved and the war is won at that point

2020-02-09 23:42:34 UTC  

before the bombing

2020-02-09 23:42:35 UTC  

the

2020-02-09 23:42:48 UTC  

eternal

2020-02-09 23:42:51 UTC  

Anglo

2020-02-09 23:43:39 UTC  

the britbongs knew that if the germs defeat the soviets they would essentially control the entire european continent.

2020-02-09 23:44:00 UTC  

something no other power could accomplish in history

2020-02-09 23:44:00 UTC  

yeah

2020-02-09 23:44:10 UTC  

basically the same as ww1

2020-02-09 23:44:18 UTC  

muh balance of puwah

2020-02-09 23:45:19 UTC  

Ironically it was the British blockade in WW1 which lead the birth of the Lebensraum idea.

2020-02-09 23:45:36 UTC  

yes and no

2020-02-09 23:45:50 UTC  

there were ideas of lebensraum before ww1

2020-02-09 23:46:02 UTC  

but yes it picked up after ww1