Message from @Mr. Nessel

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2020-03-14 23:31:42 UTC  

Which were very democratic

2020-03-14 23:32:07 UTC  

More democratic than Prussian constiutionalism

2020-03-14 23:32:10 UTC  

Like totes

2020-03-14 23:32:23 UTC  

Central Powers > Entente

2020-03-14 23:32:29 UTC  

Yeah

2020-03-14 23:32:31 UTC  

except the ottomans

2020-03-14 23:32:34 UTC  

Yes

2020-03-14 23:33:05 UTC  

If only we could've somehow allied with the Russians instead of going to war with them

2020-03-14 23:33:33 UTC  

Idk maybe backstab Austria by creating Yugoslavia, doign an Anschluss and the rest going to Russia?

2020-03-14 23:33:34 UTC  

Bismarck had fostered those relations

2020-03-14 23:33:57 UTC  

If Willhelm had only had more respect for our best chancellor

2020-03-14 23:34:20 UTC  

example of a bad son of a king

2020-03-14 23:34:46 UTC  

I mean his father was bad in hsi own right but knew to let Bismarck do his thing

2020-03-14 23:34:51 UTC  

i doubt you could get Turds and russians on the same team

2020-03-14 23:34:57 UTC  

Give an independent Hungary with non retarded borders and I'm in

2020-03-14 23:35:07 UTC  

And the alternative to Willhelm who died early was attrocious

2020-03-14 23:35:29 UTC  

He might've actually turned Germany into a proper liberal constiturtional monarchy

2020-03-14 23:35:38 UTC  

Thankfully that Anglophile was a smoker

2020-03-14 23:36:07 UTC  

@Imperial J. Yay Obviously, would that include a coast

2020-03-14 23:36:38 UTC  

I was mostly thinking along the lines of splitting up the Austrian part of the empire

2020-03-14 23:37:00 UTC  

Hungary would be left intact minus the Yugo lands

2020-03-14 23:37:36 UTC  

splitting of Croatia?

2020-03-14 23:37:50 UTC  

or just taking present day Slovenia

2020-03-14 23:38:18 UTC  

Idk if the Serbs would like that. Slovenia would prolly stick with Austria thatw ould get Anschlussed to Germany

2020-03-14 23:38:41 UTC  

Maybe some sort of agreement could be reached abotu fleet basing right in Yugoslavia

2020-03-14 23:38:54 UTC  

Or idk the Romanians get fucked over

2020-03-14 23:39:06 UTC  

So Hungary gets access via the Danube

2020-03-14 23:39:50 UTC  

the second one sounds like a proxy access to the Mediterranean

2020-03-14 23:40:08 UTC  

which depends on t*rkey

2020-03-14 23:40:27 UTC  

I mean Turkey wouldn't be an ally in this timeline

2020-03-14 23:40:45 UTC  

Ideally Constantinople becomes jointly governed, something like that

2020-03-14 23:41:10 UTC  

Invading Slovenia is my preferred choice

2020-03-14 23:41:28 UTC  

or maybe split it with (former) Austria

2020-03-14 23:42:19 UTC  

If I had any say in it I'd Anschluss Slovenia along with Austria but give fleet basing rights to Hungary
Idk what form of government Hungary would even have and if it had a monarch if it would be Hohenzollern or something else

2020-03-14 23:43:07 UTC  

well any Hungarian royal family has died off a long time ago

2020-03-14 23:43:34 UTC  

There were minor nobles

2020-03-14 23:44:02 UTC  

Though I'd expect a foreign king to marry into local nobility anyway

2020-03-14 23:44:38 UTC  

Idk just install some German monarch, most smaller nobles were anti Habsburg and german in the first place

2020-03-14 23:45:10 UTC  

the reason we got Habsburgs in the first place was the aristocracy

2020-03-14 23:46:19 UTC  

Wasn't it because Habsburgs conquered part of Hungary after you had a civil war because of a dynastic struggle and the Turks invading

2020-03-14 23:46:32 UTC  

After which the Austrians took the rest of the country anyway