Message from @Vulpes

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2020-04-21 08:55:09 UTC  

Though back then taxes were based more on property value than income (also the reason why Romans came up with the census)

2020-04-21 08:56:04 UTC  

Income taxation is actually relativel novel

2020-04-21 08:56:24 UTC  

Even if it exists on paper in the third world really it doesn't apply there to this day

2020-04-21 08:56:51 UTC  

African states would prolly be better able to tax it by using the old model

2020-04-21 08:57:20 UTC  

Iirc Romes tax income was mainly based on tarifs and on property

2020-04-21 08:57:30 UTC  

Yeah that too

2020-04-21 08:57:46 UTC  

Afaik Romans taxed Britain more pre conquest than post

2020-04-21 08:57:57 UTC  

Yeah

2020-04-21 08:58:04 UTC  

And of course they had to pay to prevent uprising and whatnot

2020-04-21 08:58:14 UTC  

Egypt was the most profitable region

2020-04-21 08:58:39 UTC  

Iirc this was also the reason they didn't expand into Jemen

2020-04-21 08:58:56 UTC  

Much cheaper to trade with them then to conquer them

2020-04-21 08:59:23 UTC  

Maybe they should've had something like internal tariffs

2020-04-21 08:59:26 UTC  

the romans were proto georgists then?

2020-04-21 08:59:36 UTC  

Because that's the easiest way to tax

2020-04-21 08:59:50 UTC  

Of course only until you can effectively tax property and whatnot

2020-04-21 09:00:05 UTC  

They had a tax for all trade that past trough Mare Nostrum

2020-04-21 09:00:44 UTC  

@Galahad No the property values changed from time to time and this was taken into account with the census

2020-04-21 09:00:52 UTC  

Georgism is more rigid

2020-04-21 09:01:13 UTC  

And punishes large land owners

2020-04-21 09:01:23 UTC  

Sicily and Egypt were iirc two of the most valuable roman teritories

2020-04-21 09:01:31 UTC  

Yes

2020-04-21 09:01:33 UTC  

why sicily

2020-04-21 09:01:41 UTC  

Food

2020-04-21 09:01:45 UTC  

sorry for the questions im not an expert on this by any means

2020-04-21 09:01:49 UTC  

Massive grain production

2020-04-21 09:01:59 UTC  

Rome itself was basically a huge waste of money

2020-04-21 09:02:09 UTC  

ah that makes sense

2020-04-21 09:02:25 UTC  

i assume its because sicily was less mountainous that the italian mainland?

2020-04-21 09:02:31 UTC  

and better soil maybe

2020-04-21 09:02:42 UTC  

It's also one of the reasons they never conquerd Germany

2020-04-21 09:02:52 UTC  

Sicily has good land

2020-04-21 09:02:59 UTC  

They did but didn't hold on to it for very long afaik

2020-04-21 09:03:04 UTC  

Germany was econolicaly usless

2020-04-21 09:03:05 UTC  

Yeah

2020-04-21 09:03:13 UTC  

they never took all of "Germany"

2020-04-21 09:03:13 UTC  

I occupied is a better term

2020-04-21 09:03:17 UTC  

Germany could've been nice for pasturing possibly

2020-04-21 09:03:23 UTC  

But Romans weren't into that

2020-04-21 09:03:25 UTC  

But the forests

2020-04-21 09:03:34 UTC  

It became very good land