Message from @Mr. Nessel
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"reconstructions"
He Kind of answered a different question than he asked
Not if America wasn't colonized but completely isolated
Without any exchange whatsoever
Huge difference since trade would still introduce disease, steel, horses, gunpowder etc.
Earth worms.
Possibly even christianity which would make it questionable why he dismisses the civilized tribes
Countries that were never fully conquered by Europeans.
what about ethiopia
or japan
China got owned by that standard then
ah yes america, my favorite country in europe
I'm pretty sure Russia invaded Mongolia
The soviets helped the communist part of Mongolia to take control, the soviet union did not occupy Mongolia.
Japan was occupied by US that didn't happen to China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_Japan
I wonder if Germany had skipped the spring offensive in WW1 and held long enough to prepare a new defensive line at/behind the Rhine (Tanks would have a hard time crossing a river at that point) whether or not defeat was actually inevitable. Of course a lot of German industry and ore deposits are in the Rhineland so they would have to move some industrial equipment and essential people further inland. I'm thinking if they could hold this line instead of being overrun like historically the food situation would've resolved itself with the eastern gains and much of Germany's urban population being in entente hands. If defending a river takes less men which I think it would they could afford to send men to the Balkans and the Italian front which wouldn't easily be overrun either due to the terrain/inability to use tanks effectively. I haven't seen a "Wacht am Rhein" scenario covered in alternative history discussions all that much
@Mr. Nessel I think the best chance Germany had for victory was defending against France, not invading France, and going on the offensive against Russia.
Yeah but that would be in the very beginning. I was mostly thinking of very late into the war
The point where Germany losing was supposedly inevitable
Around the spring time offensive
My point is mostly that the spring time offensive exhausted Germany's ability to defend which allowed for the Hindenburg line to be overrun more easily which makes any sort of organized retreat impossible (Germany actually was lost when the line broke imo)
Being able to hold for a while longer might've allowed for Germany to prepare another defensive line behind the Rhine river, which would make tanks completely useless and offensives from either side completely futile
The Hindenburg line even as it existed on land was formidable so I have little doubt Germany could have held on much longer than it did historically if a similiar defensive line existed but behind the Rhine
I definitely agree with your point about initially defending against France though
If Germany didn't make use of the Schlieffen plan it would have to only defend Alsace Lorraine which is pretty good terrain for defence or fall back to the Rhine for the most part which again would make it very easiy to defend
Whereas Germany managed to not only beat Russia historically, but with less troops than would be available under this scenario
Nvm all the implications of not violating Belgian neutrality which is the main reason for Britain to join the war
Which is the main reason Germany did resort to unrestricted submarine warfare which brought in the Americans
If Britain stayed out of it Germany even would have naval superiority and could feasably blockade the French rather than being blockaded by Britain
i really doubt the britbongs would allow Germs to be hegemons of europe. they would join france and russia regardless of belgium
Not without a casus belli and even if they did they would join in delayed
germs could never win a prolonged war against Entete.
Says who
they didbt have the resources
Germany had the ressources to continue fighting. The issue that killed Germany was tanks allowing for the Hindenburg line to be overrun
their navy was confined to the ports after jutland and tactics were developed against u boat attacks