Message from @vexmasina44
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Germans are very heterogeneous phenotypically
Also true to some extent
But they do cluster together genotypically
But yes that was kind of my point
Well yes because unironically Germany is a melting pot of European types
Pretending like countries or even nations are sharply divided along genetic lines is kind of silly
In reality itโs more like a racial continuum
I wouldn't go that far
Well with the caveat that theyโre all white
Yeah
And there obviously are significant enough differences that nations arose to begin with
My point is thereโs no sharp dividing line between France and Germany
Or England and Scotland
Etc
Yeah Germany is more of a culture and language thing
I view it sort of as a white foundation upon which houses like Germany etc. are built
Also I would divide Baltics from Slavs. We are closely related but Balts are still their own thing.
@Korin Dickman I think this is a future map of europe
by then baltics will be majority slavic ๐
also divide balkan-slavs to least slavic and more balkanic
*Albanians*..........................................
like unironically they are human waste
*Bosnians*.......................................
barely human
they require severe beating and forcefull conversion to become human
Lmao.
European muslims.
Converted just to get gibs from the Turkish goverment.
More complicated than that
Bosnians converted in large part because they were despised by both the orthodox and catholic church so becoming muslim is how they gave both of them the middle finger
It's pretty tragic tbh
Oh i know, most of the tribes around the Bosnians hated them because they were known for raiding. The Catholic church tried to regin them in and failed. (Tbh they only aceapted te catholic church because it was a means to protect themselves from the tribes and nation's around them looking at there land). Even before hand the Bosnians never really aceapted Catholic authority in the land.
Themselves were amore akin to loose christanity and many still practied Pagan worship. Also a majoirty of Bosnians at the time practied the Bogomilian Hersey which resembled Islam more than that of Christanity.
Back to the loose Christanity part, the churchs weren't even united on the teachings of Christ. When the Turks came Bosnians were in a perpetual state of war agaisnt the Serbs and nations surronding them. The Turk's promised Secuirty and properity in exchange for there conversion to Islam.
So the offer was aceapted and many served within the Turkish Armies heading north against Hungry. The reason why the are reviled in europe is because they beytrayed there Cultral kin and gave into the invaders from the south. Before hand they were respected as Brethern by the Slav's in the south. But when they sided with Invaders they were essentially dissavowed.
But the Situation is even more complecated then that, and i have only diped a toe into the water's.
But overall history of the different people's of europe is facsentating.
@Norik I agree with your points, the map is supposed to be cultural and genetic, so I choose language subfamilies because are the best predictors for both.
yeah I'm saying that's a reductionist assumption
dangerously reductionist, even
considering the need for european unity at times like these
Anyway thanks for the feedback, from all of you, I will take it in consideration when I rework the map.