Message from @Salvation_Crucifix

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2020-02-22 22:06:34 UTC  

Why do you think they hate the state so much

2020-02-22 22:07:17 UTC  

They do believe in objective morality

2020-02-22 22:07:20 UTC  

I suspect it has less to do with the state’s corruption and power than it has with the state not allowing them to do immoral things they know they can’t do with it around

2020-02-22 22:07:45 UTC  

The soverenity of the individual and personal freedom

2020-02-22 22:07:50 UTC  

@Skellington But they don’t believe it should be enforced

2020-02-22 22:07:58 UTC  

Which is my main point of contention with them

2020-02-22 22:08:02 UTC  

No

2020-02-22 22:08:21 UTC  

They believe in morals and rights

2020-02-22 22:08:28 UTC  

Just negative ones

2020-02-22 22:08:35 UTC  

As in freedom from x

2020-02-22 22:08:39 UTC  

Not duty to do x

2020-02-22 22:09:24 UTC  

So they don't enforce morals (theoretically) because they don't believe in enforcing

2020-02-22 22:09:43 UTC  

It's just not fesible though

2020-02-22 22:10:09 UTC  

In order to break state power you need to become more powerful than the state

2020-02-22 22:10:19 UTC  

And if you do that

2020-02-22 22:10:24 UTC  

So them having morals means no practical thing

2020-02-22 22:10:25 UTC  

You become the new state

2020-02-22 22:10:40 UTC  

Or purge them

But the less said about that the better

2020-02-22 22:10:55 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/672211350436708356/680899351593484312/unknown.png

2020-02-22 22:10:58 UTC  

assimilate them

2020-02-22 22:11:10 UTC  

It’s how good old Adolf came to power

2020-02-22 22:11:16 UTC  

the ones that don't

2020-02-22 22:11:19 UTC  

purge

2020-02-22 22:11:21 UTC  

🤔

2020-02-22 22:11:40 UTC  

that sounds like a fed moment

2020-02-22 22:11:43 UTC  

sorry

2020-02-22 22:11:53 UTC  

It's always the problem with anarchism

2020-02-22 22:12:00 UTC  

Anarchy is gay

2020-02-22 22:12:20 UTC  

Like the leftist arachist commune in anitolia had work camps

2020-02-22 22:12:26 UTC  

For non anarchists

2020-02-22 22:12:49 UTC  

lel

2020-02-22 22:13:06 UTC  

And that’s logical

If you had a society based entirely on cooperation instead of force, even just a little bit, no one would want to do anything

2020-02-22 22:13:13 UTC  

*bbbuyy bu it's not the state, it's the commune*

2020-02-22 22:13:32 UTC  

Why should *I* need to help build the roads?

2020-02-22 22:13:41 UTC  

Yes

2020-02-22 22:13:49 UTC  

but that is against anarchy

2020-02-22 22:13:55 UTC  

Then they got ran over by tankies

2020-02-22 22:13:59 UTC  

I didn't say it's a bad thing

2020-02-22 22:14:04 UTC  

Always the problem with a priori systems

2020-02-22 22:14:26 UTC  

remember Kronstadt

2020-02-22 22:14:35 UTC  

They basically have to contradict their values to survive in the real world