Message from @Iron Nation

Discord ID: 686348224038305822


2020-03-08 21:35:43 UTC  

I've wanted to publish something about the gentilification/goyification of pornography but I am fretting over the particulars

2020-03-08 21:36:40 UTC  

Overall its generally good not to have a NSFW section on a serious server.

2020-03-08 22:36:54 UTC  

@here wanna vc?

2020-03-08 22:44:22 UTC  

@TheEternalSearcher 𐠊𐠔 That Debate was a Shit show and i am having a hard time trying to see who won that debate.

2020-03-08 22:44:47 UTC  

What’s wrong with women posting

2020-03-08 22:45:13 UTC  

It’s to get across what you might like to see in a companion

2020-03-08 22:45:56 UTC  

Let's not, once we allow such things the slipperly slope fallacy will come into order.

2020-03-08 22:46:30 UTC  

I can’t ever remember any far right/trad server I’ve been in posting degenerate women

2020-03-08 22:47:00 UTC  

Any nudity or sexualized content is banned

2020-03-08 22:47:36 UTC  

Well I’m certainly not

2020-03-08 22:49:56 UTC  

It's probably healthy to have an area dedicated to the discussion of the ideal vs practical woman. It depends on the nature of your server - if you want lifestyle subsections dedicated to dating, finding partners, etc.

2020-03-08 22:51:15 UTC  

There's no real problem in posting attractive women generally it's more about the motivations or behaviors underlying the posting. Lots of people will post statues of topless males for instance because they are indicators of fortitude, etc - but presumably women and queers could find that material arousing.

2020-03-08 22:53:03 UTC  

If you're just being a coomer then obviously any pic of a girl no matter how chaste can be turned into jerk material but if your motivations are purer then you can accommodate a broader range of material - medical journals for example feature lots of naked females, but the emphasis of the content is professional not sexual.

2020-03-08 22:53:35 UTC  

Artwork is the same, generally

2020-03-08 22:53:48 UTC  

Traditional art that is

2020-03-08 22:56:50 UTC  

Right. Historically there have been nude statues of males in females in various contexts, often relating to sports.

2020-03-08 23:00:27 UTC  

To take the alternative position - that all nudity is inherently pornographic - is to indict a lot of traditional art which shows women in stages of undress, or nude children. We shouldn't reject this notion BECAUSE it taints art - that would be illogical - but rather reject the notion because we don't have any good justification to believe that historical artists were predominately pedos and perverts.

2020-03-08 23:01:46 UTC  

Rather its more likely that as the accessibility of art moved down into the middle/lower classes it covered more common themes, which included things like the banality of nudity - which has had to be addressed as a point of concern by modern social media companies - where kids throwing their clothes off and running around naked is a pretty ubiquitous and often humorous phenomenon.

2020-03-08 23:01:55 UTC  

I’d say something is pornographic if its intent is to specifically be sexually arousing

2020-03-08 23:02:02 UTC  

mhm

2020-03-08 23:02:48 UTC  

The real issue is that if we adopt the notion that intent is primary you get those dumb mentally 9000 year old succubus anime pedos drawing kids having sex

2020-03-08 23:03:15 UTC  

So there has to be a balance between intention and perception between the creator and the observer

2020-03-08 23:03:40 UTC  

And the role of government is to adjudicate the relationship between these two where it is problematic/injurious to the public

2020-03-09 00:18:12 UTC  

@Canadian Man I have the same problem lol.

2020-03-09 00:19:16 UTC  

I know fuck.

2020-03-09 00:19:20 UTC  

I didn't know who was sperger.

2020-03-09 01:00:49 UTC  

das sperger

2020-03-09 01:55:02 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/672211350436708356/686391569074356276/Screenshot_20200308-205437.png

2020-03-09 02:04:25 UTC  

BASED!.

2020-03-09 02:06:20 UTC  

if god wanted us to ride horses they'd come with built-in saddles

2020-03-09 02:29:00 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/672211350436708356/686400115938033693/twaw.jpg

2020-03-09 02:39:22 UTC  

@vexmasina44 he also brought his dog to a meeting with Merkel, who has a huge fear of dogs

2020-03-09 02:39:31 UTC  

Watching her freak out was hilarious

2020-03-09 02:40:11 UTC  

whe he meets with xi
he should wear a batsuit

2020-03-09 02:43:07 UTC  

Putin is so cool

2020-03-09 02:43:41 UTC  

bruh don't you know that putin is a COMMIENEST?

2020-03-09 02:44:58 UTC  

eh... dont think so, but whatev

2020-03-09 02:59:01 UTC  

UMMMM if putin isn't a COMMUNIST then why does he support VENEZUELA?

2020-03-09 03:05:01 UTC  

Anti-americanism

2020-03-09 03:05:21 UTC  

also denying venezuelas resources to American corporations