Message from @Mr. Nessel

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2020-04-09 10:09:06 UTC  

Maybe I'm just a man living in modernity but I find it hard to imagine adverts that aren't omnipresent. It kinda just seems like that was the direction it was always meant to go towards and where it is most effective

2020-04-09 10:09:22 UTC  

Replace omnipresent adverts with omnipresent propaganda posters

2020-04-09 10:09:42 UTC  

Berlin in the 30s actually did away with them and it's interesting how that turned out

2020-04-09 10:11:11 UTC  

lel

2020-04-09 10:11:16 UTC  

What do you think killed Mercantilism's influence and usage by European powers from the 1700s-1800s?

2020-04-09 10:11:46 UTC  

Mercantilism is actually an ironic term

2020-04-09 10:11:46 UTC  

Speaking of which, what do you think of Adam Smith's criticism of it?

2020-04-09 10:11:54 UTC  

I know you used another term

2020-04-09 10:12:05 UTC  

But they fit in a similar category of Economic Nationalism of some kind

2020-04-09 10:12:25 UTC  

Considering mercantilism was a term invented by merchants agitating for the government to end tariffs whilst saying it was merchants who wanted tariffs

2020-04-09 10:12:36 UTC  

Free trade is the real mercantilism so to speak

2020-04-09 10:13:02 UTC  

Afaik Ricardo was even a Sephardic tribal and son of a stockbroker

2020-04-09 10:13:38 UTC  

I don't buy Adam Smith's critique of mercantilism

2020-04-09 10:13:48 UTC  

Nor Ricardo's developed model of it

2020-04-09 10:14:38 UTC  

Mercantilism was wrong to assert that wealth is simply hoarding more gold inside your country by not importing stuff and that's about it regarding the valid criticism

2020-04-09 10:14:58 UTC  

In practice mercantilism helped develop various industries in countries

2020-04-09 10:15:03 UTC  

Clearly we must support the most obsolete economic theory of Bullionism

2020-04-09 10:15:29 UTC  

Speaking of which

2020-04-09 10:15:45 UTC  

Once industry develops, would free trade then be beneficial after that or should tariffs stay?

2020-04-09 10:16:38 UTC  

No it's better to keep the tariffs unless you definitely want to get rid of an industry to free up manpower for something else

2020-04-09 10:16:59 UTC  

You shouldn't at all remove industrial tariffs if there's an abundance of labour

2020-04-09 10:17:25 UTC  

Though even a shortage of labour could be good

2020-04-09 10:17:33 UTC  

Because it'd incentivize automation

2020-04-09 10:18:18 UTC  

If I recall, the only reliably nationalist business entities are normally those dependent to the reactionary state for its survival, like those who need tariffs, or perhaps subsidies.

2020-04-09 10:18:53 UTC  

You basically should treat corporations as fiefdoms and enforce their fidelity to the state

2020-04-09 10:19:03 UTC  

They're institutions unto themselves

2020-04-09 10:19:24 UTC  

You shouldn't let institutions be dominated by foreigners or subversives

2020-04-09 10:19:34 UTC  

Basically what China does

2020-04-09 10:19:37 UTC  

Keep them on a short leash

2020-04-09 10:20:05 UTC  

If Jack Ma decided to get uppity we'd see Ali Baba and whatnot get new leadership quickly

2020-04-09 10:20:32 UTC  

If the Communist Party of China just disappears magically, do you think all the big business enterprises of China will become strong supporters of more economic liberalization?

2020-04-09 10:20:38 UTC  

Afaik when a factory produced faulty baby formula and it lead to deaths the entire corporate board and even some workers got executed

2020-04-09 10:21:29 UTC  

Idk how further economic liberalization in China would look like

2020-04-09 10:21:42 UTC  

I could see them supporting a neoliberal democracy

2020-04-09 10:21:52 UTC  

But it could also end similiar to Russia

2020-04-09 10:22:07 UTC  

Since a shitton of corporations are state owned and would be privatized

2020-04-09 10:22:10 UTC  

Unsurprisingly, due to the Coronavirus, some are calling this the beginning of the death of the CCP, unsure whether or not this is accurate but I always speculate what will happen if the CCP dies.

2020-04-09 10:23:13 UTC  

The CCP atm is on a trajectory towards more centralization and autocracy
Unless Xi Jingping drops dead I doubt it'll just die

2020-04-09 10:23:51 UTC  

One party states sometimes have a tendency to become more democratic though so if he does go away it's an open question

2020-04-09 10:24:56 UTC  

I'm actually hoping that democratic dissidents cause another Xinhai type situation in China to kickstart another warlord era

2020-04-09 10:25:00 UTC  

That'd be ideal