The family is a COLLECTIVIST notion

right, not like labour outsourcing and migrant labour insourcing helped destroy the family too

The family structure is collectivist and hierarchical. Individualism led to the mother working, which decreased birth rates and marriages and encouraged moral degeneration.

@ItzMidrex

Christianity thinks of
human individuals not as mere members of a group or items in
a list, but as organs in a body—different from one another and
each contributing what no other could. When you fi nd your-
self wanting to turn your children, or pupils, or even your
neighbours, into people exactly like yourself, remember that
God probably never meant them to be that. You and they are
different organs, intended to do different things. On the other
hand, when you are tempted not to bother about someone
else’s troubles because they are ‘no business of yours’, remem-
ber that though he is different from you he is part of the same organism as you. If you forget that he belongs to the same
organism as yourself you will become an Individualist. If you
forget that he is a different organ from you, if you want to
suppress differences and make people all alike, you will
become a Totalitarian. But a Christian must not be either a
Totalitarian or an Individualist.

C.s Lewis mere Christianity
(sorry for the formatting but i copied it from my phone)

Because the current welfare system in the US somewhat rewards destructive behavior.

Blacks never naturally gravitated to nuclear families to begin with. They're now much closer to how people in Africa behave

> Individualism makes a mother a lone woman who has to get gangfucked as many times as she can to find herself instead of being a necessary component to a larger whole ( the family )
@Iron Nation
No families are voluntary associations. Division of labour. Men cannot breed children. Women need provision. That's nature

Children are born into families without consent

They aren't voluntary

@Mr.Fisch（炫龙） stop being stupid please

Hahaha

It's not fucking voluntary

@Mr.Fisch（炫龙） were you asked to be in your family lol

It's your duty

I don't know about all of you but when I was born I had to sign a contract to join my family.

I signed a contract in the womb

@McFansy oh you too

@Mr. Nessel I know this, but the welfare system we have encourages that and makes the problem worse. Things like child illegitimacy and children being raised by single mothers have gone way up since the implementation of LBJ’s Great Society.

signed in blood.

Saw a pagan Nazi post this earlier on twitter

I remember when I signed the piece of paper that handed ownership of me to my parents

sounds like evola

In any case not only are you wrong on the nature of the family, you're wrong about the broader social conception of the family. It's generally agreed by everyone that its criminal to be negligent towards your kids and let them starve to death. If the family were a voluntary association then there'd be no basis for making it illegal to just putting your baby down and letting it starve to death.

@ItzMidrex because a single mother got more money if a man wasn't in the house.

no, it sounds too dumb to be from evola, what's that quote from

However for most people we recognize its morally abhorrent to do that your baby - we have a sense that you adopt responsibility when you create offspring.

Hence parental obligation.

> In any case not only are you wrong on the nature of the family, you're wrong about the broader social conception of the family. It's generally agreed by everyone that its criminal to be negligent towards your kids and let them starve to death. If the family were a voluntary association then there'd be no basis for making it illegal to just putting your baby down and letting it starve to death.
@Iron Nation
I have axiomatic truths. You are a damn commie

Well if your axiomatic truth is that its ok to kill your kids you can fuck off

If this is communism then give me Stalin please

@McFansy exactly, the welfare system rewards such behavior.

> Well if your axiomatic truth is that its ok to kill your kids you can fuck off
@Iron Nation
No, it's not okay

I will side with a lot of commies to against you any day you jew lover lmao

Ok, Lad's what is this accomplishing?.

@ItzMidrex It's to buy votes

Everyone that disagrees with me is a commie or socialist this is peak boomerism

@Canadian Man having fun, don't be a gatekeeper

Oh no, a commie! So scary! Why are we acting like we’re still stuck in the Cold War?

> I will side with a lot of commies to against you any day you jew lover lmao
@Iron Nation
Yeah, because you're a socialist

does he know what axioms mean