Message from @The Leaf

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2020-02-07 11:47:30 UTC  

Some theoretical framework is still required but I'd think you could use the Chinese concept of the mandate of heaven to legitimize it in the longterm

2020-02-07 11:48:18 UTC  

Also parts of America are less in line with the Anglo mindset

2020-02-07 11:48:24 UTC  

I think a dictatorship would probably solve all your problems, so I don't see why there would need to be a transition into monarchy

2020-02-07 11:48:50 UTC  

But yeah, it'd definitely be easier to go from dictatorship to monarchy than try to transition straight from democracy to monarchy

2020-02-07 11:48:55 UTC  

If dictatorships don't have clear lines of succession it causes all sorts of issues in the longterm

2020-02-07 11:49:43 UTC  

Basically Alexander's problem

2020-02-07 11:49:59 UTC  

What happens without an heir but very powerfull gnerals etc.

2020-02-07 11:50:04 UTC  

Being born into royalty makes you weak. Rome had the right idea, adopting sons who would be competent rulers

2020-02-07 11:50:15 UTC  

Of course antipater killed Alexander's son tho

2020-02-07 11:50:55 UTC  

I don't see how being born into royalty makes one weak. if anything it allows you to properly prepare for rule

2020-02-07 11:51:16 UTC  

No hardship. You have a cushy life.

2020-02-07 11:51:26 UTC  

Not necessarily

2020-02-07 11:51:29 UTC  

I think it also makes it harder to relate to the common folk

2020-02-07 11:51:39 UTC  

Lots of learning and bureaucracy to do

2020-02-07 11:51:52 UTC  

Sometimes people expect them to lead

2020-02-07 11:51:54 UTC  

Someone who was raised a commoner but is a genius, understands what it's like

2020-02-07 11:53:24 UTC  

Anyway, I think we can both agree that a dictatorship would be a step in the right direction. Even if we don't agree on the final end point

2020-02-07 11:53:43 UTC  

Yeah

2020-02-07 14:12:42 UTC  

The metaphysics must be right, thats the most important part

2020-02-08 21:01:45 UTC  

I think that if a king raises their child(ren) properly they grow up to be good rulers.

2020-02-08 21:02:38 UTC  

Just don’t let them live a cushy life and force them to do jobs considered as crappy.

2020-02-08 21:03:34 UTC  

Make their young childhood fun but make them struggle when they are teens and young adults so that they don’t become spoiled.

2020-02-08 21:05:41 UTC  

>a king

2020-02-08 21:05:44 UTC  

>their

2020-02-08 21:05:47 UTC  

fam...

2020-02-08 21:05:58 UTC  

What?

2020-02-08 21:06:06 UTC  

King are men

2020-02-08 21:06:10 UTC  

It’s HIS children

2020-02-08 21:06:31 UTC  

Don’t adopt leftist nonenglish

2020-02-08 21:06:43 UTC  

I was thinking of king AND Queen when I said the their bit.

2020-02-08 21:07:15 UTC  

I just didn’t put Queen in there because I was being retarded.

2020-02-08 21:07:35 UTC  

Machiavelli talks about this in The Prince

2020-02-08 21:07:42 UTC  

I agree that saying their for everything is gay af.

2020-02-08 21:07:47 UTC  

Good times create weak men etc

2020-02-08 21:08:09 UTC  

A prince ought to be educated in the history of warfare and be raised to hunt

2020-02-08 21:08:29 UTC  

To know what it takes to lure and kill your enemies and to learn the lay of the land

2020-02-08 21:08:40 UTC  

How valleys slope and forests conceal

2020-02-08 21:08:55 UTC  

Everyone should. It is just extra important for rulers to.

2020-02-08 21:09:02 UTC  

So that he may know how to lead a battle when the time comes

2020-02-08 21:09:36 UTC  

Reminder that the mongols were raised hunting mice and herding on horseback

2020-02-08 21:10:01 UTC  

And conquered half the world’s population in an afternoon with six horses and a banana