And afaik Hobbes was ambivalent about monarchy/republic
Yes but that’s not how he uses it
Arguing against rebellion
Rather than for any given system
So Hobbes would say to a North Korean to not resist
“Common wealth” = all sovereignty combined into a united whole
Machiavelli isn't really idealistic but realistic too so idk what is meant with a Machiavellian principality
Notice how the chain mail is the subjects of the king
Technically any principality is Machiavellian
And so is any state
Because all operate under Realpolitik
i thought it was a bunch of scales at first
and i was like "oh leviathan is a big fish and this king has a bunch of scales like a fish"
I think the illustration explains his argument pretty clearly
The king holds both temporal/legal authority (the sword) and ecclesiastical authority (the scepter) but only as long as he truly represents and acts on behalf of his people
(Otherwise there’s civil wars and revolutions and shit, like the civil war in England which prompted Hobbes to write the Leviathan in the first place)
I think fascism/Pinochetism are technically Hobbesian in a sense
Since they consist of the nation agreeing to cede authority to a single leader with the expectation of order above all else
why does he call it leviathan
*Heheh, Hobbes one arguement to help support Anglicanism*.
Reference to the biblical monster
Because the subjects live in awe and fear of the king
In a way which inspires obedience/allegiance
*Nationlize reilgion*.
It’s a really worthwhile read as a defense of monarchy, I’m not sure I agree with it but I still highly recommend it
Hm, Norik? are there Physcial copies?.
Or should i just read a PDF verson?.
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I prefer physical books always but if you don’t mind a pdf then I don’t think it matters
Wait could you please link, a cite that i can use to purqure a physical verson.
Amazon dot com
It’s a famous book lol
Leviathan by Thomas Hobbes
Mhm.
Anyway none of these answers help me write my essay lmao
What is the essay on?.
Is it on the question you stated earlier?.
Yes
You’re exiled and your only options for fleeing are a Machiavellian principality or a Hobbesian commonwealth
Where do you go and why
What facotor's need to be inculded?.
