Message from @Rils

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2018-07-02 04:14:22 UTC  

Many businesses pushed back against the state laws saying they had to segregate too.

2018-07-02 04:14:37 UTC  

You don't correct government overreach with more government overreach.

2018-07-02 04:16:20 UTC  

And remember the part about "didn't want to live under a tyrant", the federal government had to find a way to prohibit discrimination, but do it in a way that I'm sure the local businesses considered tyranical

2018-07-02 04:16:46 UTC  

They fought tyranny with more tyranny, and it's had major consequences

2018-07-02 04:18:31 UTC  

So they went back to the constitution, and found a section called "the commerce clause" that regulated interstate business, and interpreted that to mean that discrimination in public accommodations was related to the trade between the sates

2018-07-02 04:19:42 UTC  

And of course, it was fought then, lots of people tried to make lots of arguments against it. But that's why you don't see those signs in the windows of American businesses today

2018-07-02 04:19:42 UTC  

The courts created a bad precedent for more tyranny.

2018-07-02 04:19:53 UTC  

@Rils yes they did

2018-07-02 04:20:20 UTC  

The courts had also previously found Separate but Equal to be constitutional

2018-07-02 04:20:53 UTC  

I don't like to rely on the courts for legislation

2018-07-02 04:21:28 UTC  

It's not a great system

2018-07-02 04:21:40 UTC  

It's just better than all the others

2018-07-02 04:22:09 UTC  

Judging by the reaction today to the power of SCOTUS, I'm not quite sure

2018-07-02 04:24:13 UTC  

Amend the Constitution if you want to clarify the powers of the Fed, don't have SCOTUS make up new definitions that aren't there.

2018-07-02 04:24:16 UTC  

I once heard my father (this was like 20 years ago) wonder aloud what would happen if the President directly acted against a ruling from SCOTUS. I want to say it's a constitutional question that's not come up in 200+ years

2018-07-02 04:24:47 UTC  

What would happen is impeachment.

2018-07-02 04:25:22 UTC  

But SCOTUS doesn't have the absolute power to order POTUS to do anything

2018-07-02 04:25:22 UTC  

@Rils you don't have to answer if you don't want to, but how old are you?

2018-07-02 04:25:30 UTC  

I'll be 30 in a month

2018-07-02 04:26:14 UTC  

Do you think the better system would be to put the Civil Rights Act of 1964 as a new constitutional amendment?

2018-07-02 04:26:16 UTC  

Also, Discord etiquette, you don't need to keep pinging me unless it looks like I've wandered away.

2018-07-02 04:27:00 UTC  

Oh sorry, today is literally the most time I've ever spent on Discord. I walked away from online chatting in 2003

2018-07-02 04:28:33 UTC  

I think for the most part, the Civil Rights Act was a step in the right direction

2018-07-02 04:29:56 UTC  

It was the means by which they enforced it that may have been a necessary evil, I'm not fully sure how I feel about that part.

2018-07-02 04:30:46 UTC  

Agreed

2018-07-02 04:31:41 UTC  

At this point, I feel like we could have an amendment like it to the constitution pass, and that would be for the best

2018-07-02 04:32:13 UTC  

I don't think it's necessary anymore

2018-07-02 04:34:59 UTC  

I don't think they can enforce morality forever.

2018-07-02 04:35:05 UTC  

I would like to see it done, just so we don't have to rely on the commerce clause anymore. And add "sexual orientation" while we are at it

2018-07-02 04:35:48 UTC  

Interesting, I hadn't considered morals

2018-07-02 04:36:26 UTC  

morality debate still

2018-07-02 04:36:27 UTC  

jeez

2018-07-02 04:36:37 UTC  

lets debate god or something fun

2018-07-02 04:36:46 UTC  

i need inspiration lmao

2018-07-02 04:36:58 UTC  

It's government enforcement of morals via the Civil Rights Act of 1964

2018-07-02 04:36:59 UTC  

I like to think of the laws as there to guarantee our freedoms, and a law that prohibits someone from discriminating against me for something I cannot control as a way to guarantee more freedoms for more people

2018-07-02 04:37:29 UTC  

My concern is, what about that someone's freedom to associate?

2018-07-02 04:37:38 UTC  

@kilo (twitter-imkilo) what about eye for an eye

2018-07-02 04:37:46 UTC  

You're taking away that person's freedoms to make you more comfortable.

2018-07-02 04:37:49 UTC  

so someone kills one of your people

2018-07-02 04:37:53 UTC  

so you kill one of their people