personally id like to try a better democracy before i rule it out but i cant help but think that monarchys are tried and true. though i wonder if they can even work now or if were just all doomed anyway

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhKKzmsUEAAts3I.jpg:large

thats another thing with democracy, you can set up a good one and yet it has its own tools to make it worse and the people think its eachothers fault

in a monarchy everyone knows who's fault it is

right and even in a democracy.. people can vote away the democracy!

so kind of self-defeating potentially

ppl can just vote in a brutal socialist dictatorship

or national socialist dictatorship as was the case of hitler

i actually like some socialist ideas, but obviously im not a socialist, i think without a economic heirarchy theres no way to have a successful society or economy for that matter

ya hierarchy is natural.... even when you think about it from a self-owner ship perspective

my socialist ideas usually try to favor the working class when it can avoid that unionist bullshit you sometimes get and the other ideas tend to just try to get bussiness to be more withholden to their employees

usually also trying to get employees invested in the bussiness

theres just no way to have a non-hierarchical society IMO ..... bcus say in the communist vision... theres always goign to be a certain CLASS of people who are going to go around enforcing THEIR systems onto others

well yeah its human nature, even if you managed to get enough people who legitamently want to have a anarchic nation, nothing stops the outsiders from coming in and taking that away from you

ya thats all well and okay by me.... theres plenty of ways to voluntarily level the playing field and help close the gap in disparities

ya, there will always be external statist forces trying to infiltrate and subvert this system, for sure

theres a really good 3-part documentary interview that i bet youd like a lot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNkDiBOO4H0&list=PLmmQ8peduhsorsovh6EjmEQEIPNkUVdUs

i think people get a bit to worried when its suggested that maybe there is a limit to how much a person can grow in an economy, to think that maybe there should be limitations to the heirarchy to prevent to much power going to one person even if its just money, because eventually money is power

i just dont wanna destroy it all together

yeah i just dont think it will be all snowballish effect in a true free market economy, bcus ultra rich ppl are human beings too and are irrational too, they will make dumb choices just like everyone else and squander their resources too, there will always be ebb and flow

there is a limit..... because you can only generate wealth from creating it in the first place

ppl get rich off a fraction of the wealth/value that they helped to produce

i dont think it will be a snowball effect either, because theres already glacers and icebergs in the marketplace to begin with. you wont see one take over all others, youll simply see them acrete as much as they possibly can as they always do

ya, but to get back to the whole globalism vs fascism thing... i think this technocracy ideology really encapsulates the agenda more accurately

sure, ill watch the videos later like a podcast when im doing something. right now i dont really have the time 😛

and the pentacles of power and wealth will also be much more numerous rather than concentrated in a more free market environment.. i think the real danger comes out of exploiting state power because it has the elephant in the room.... its has the gun, only the government can initiate use of force arbitrarily on people..... so when you have that plus excessive wealth... that is a recipe for dystopia

all good, yeah of course, its super long after all

i always find it ironic how for so long weve had these memes about how the world will be so bad if you had corporations take over governemnt. some of the most famous works of history are themed of that which are still mentioned today, yet when faced with the reality of it no one pays attention

ya ppl love their google, facebook, apple, samsung, etc

the whole water/USPS thing was in the <#463054787336732683> thread, btw lol

so... Fb, twitter and other soc media platforms are private companies. Do I owe my acc or twitter does? What about government accounts? I never went trough faq, gdpr etc... if someone knows the fast answer yes please

in technicality you dont own the rights to your account

it belongs to whatever service you made your account on

so... if you post a video there ... your own creation... is theirs not yours

?

typically in the terms you give them free copyright rights to the video to do as please but you still own the video

exactly

you are entitled to your own content

but you agreed to the tos that the company can use your content at any time without your consent

hm ok