Message from @Beemann
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if you don't want a proper debate then don't
What are you even debating though?
Build the babies, have more fences
race realism
like the good ol' days
I have to say though, building babies is good idea
create superhumans, ethics be damned
yeah. appareltly IQ can rise to level of europeans. but otherwise they will stay at the same.
because IQ is apparenly all about environment.
I just took issue with muh IQ meme. Selective usage of data is almost as bad as no data at all.
Try not strawmanning
Let he who is of superiour IQ cast the first stone.
_hands the stone to the jews and the east asians_
>Environment is a significant factor even if it isn't the biggest factor
>OMG I guess environment is everything
lel jew IQ meme.
israel IQ is 95😉
ashkenaz, if I am left to be more specific
@Beemann
Nearly every reliably measured psychological trait, especially IQ, is significantly influenced by genetic factors.
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.0963-7214.2004.00295.x
https://archive.fo/L6kaY
Okay, that doesn't contradict what I said
Come back when you bolster your reading comprehension
@Beemann Genes for large brains, linked to high IQ, are common everywhere except Africa.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB115040765329081636
https://archive.fo/S2Wiw
africans will never be as smart.
>less common
>entire group is fucked now lol
Someone missed the gene in their pool
Debated range is like 14-49%, shit's ridiculous
Nature vs Nurture is a fucking mess always
humans are just too damn complex
there's so much that goes into making a person who/what they are, and we barely understand the components, let alone how they all fit together.
all we can do is guess or look at broad statistics
We have models that are decently predictive, but it's not locked down
And then the question is whether we have the factors in, in the correct direction
Like is IQ a measure of success on its own, or because it's an indicator of other factors, or the result of them
`Like is IQ a measure of success on its own, or because it's an indicator of other factors, or the result of them`
can you elborate little
how it could be other way around?
Environmental factors
Like you can get a pretty hefty difference between the shittiest of shit environments and the closest to best we have
but even in america black IQ is one standard of deviatoin lower?
and its demosntably false to claim it because of bad school.
>America doesn't have bad schools
Cmon now
There's also cultural and legal aspects that will most certainly lead to worse outcomes
cant poist picture here but look shitposting
Fancy shit != better education
The US is struggling with education in general now too, what with Common Core being a shitshow
I would actually not be surprised if negative Flynn was partly a result of schools going to shit in the west. "We" are doing a shit job