Message from @Atkins

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2018-10-28 20:02:44 UTC  

There's nothing preventing that

2018-10-28 20:03:01 UTC  

It's just not commonplace, at least not right now

2018-10-28 20:03:15 UTC  

I'm not saying it doesn't.

2018-10-28 20:03:24 UTC  

I disagree there'd need to be a single one--they'd just have to have stable exchange rates relative to each other

2018-10-28 20:03:33 UTC  

Over time a likely "money" would emerge

2018-10-28 20:03:39 UTC  

I'm saying they'll go after the people who do that as soon as it becomes "the next part of Gab"

2018-10-28 20:03:50 UTC  

You're correct that the current implementation can't scale

2018-10-28 20:03:54 UTC  

It has to be stable enough for people to know what they want.

2018-10-28 20:04:11 UTC  

It's one of the big concerns, and the drive in the BCH/BTC split

2018-10-28 20:04:37 UTC  

I'll admit your right you could have multiple options. But in practice, there will have to be a single popular one that's big enough people can think in terms of that currency. Much like US Dollars.

2018-10-28 20:04:55 UTC  

We're no where close to that and there's absolutely no motivation for the average person to shift to crypto.

2018-10-28 20:05:01 UTC  

So they won't.

2018-10-28 20:05:43 UTC  

I could see the same being said for e.g. PayPal

2018-10-28 20:05:53 UTC  

And most people still don't really use PayPal

2018-10-28 20:06:18 UTC  

Yet it marches on anyway

2018-10-28 20:06:32 UTC  

I am happy to concede it's still a long ways off

2018-10-28 20:06:38 UTC  

Paypal basically started as an escrow service.

2018-10-28 20:06:50 UTC  

You just turn things into US dollars.

2018-10-28 20:07:08 UTC  

they also don't have a reputation for being "money for Gab"

2018-10-28 20:07:25 UTC  

If normal people don't use your service, you have no defense. Period.

2018-10-28 20:08:12 UTC  

Paypal powers lots of online stores. I would say if you regularly purchase things online you've used it even if you don't have an account.

2018-10-28 20:09:24 UTC  

That's my point. You aren't going to get Crypto anywhere near that level of ubiquity and then they'll just go after the people who accept it or convert it to physical currency.

2018-10-28 20:11:10 UTC  

I'd bet most people have never even used a merchant that uses PayPal

2018-10-28 20:11:19 UTC  

Remember, most people buy pretty much just from Amazon

2018-10-28 20:12:06 UTC  

We're arguing around the edges. Crypto won't replace payment processors.

2018-10-28 20:12:14 UTC  

And it won't replace normal currency either.

2018-10-28 20:14:52 UTC  

It doesn't have to to be useful or beneficial

2018-10-28 20:15:55 UTC  

i think banks and payment processors should be forced to remain ideologically neutral in their business practices. the federal government can make their FDIC insurance contingent on it.

2018-10-28 20:16:02 UTC  

Plus, that kind of claim is made about literally every new technology, and it always ends up being bigger than those who said it would never go anywhere

2018-10-28 20:16:59 UTC  

@Atkins They actually already do. But they aren't getting involved for some reason. Citibank should have felt the wrath of the legislators already for their little gun stunt.

For some reason enforcement has been poor or not-public.

2018-10-28 20:17:20 UTC  

regulatory capture no doubt

2018-10-28 20:17:34 UTC  

I think it's Obama holdovers from Operation Chokepoint.

2018-10-28 20:18:00 UTC  

I suspect a lot of it is also Republicans not wanting to get into fights.

2018-10-28 20:18:20 UTC  

we also saw how fucking clueless the republicans are in general in the recent hearings

2018-10-28 20:18:20 UTC  

Congress passes a law forbidding the latest stunt every couple years.

2018-10-28 20:18:40 UTC  

Yeah, it's been very disheartening.

2018-10-28 20:18:48 UTC  

But I put a good bit of blame on the base too.

2018-10-28 20:19:15 UTC  

Conservatism as an ideology seems to idolize the idea of being quiet, not causing a fight and then making a change from the top somehow.

2018-10-28 20:19:21 UTC  

But then no one ever gets to the top.

2018-10-28 20:19:27 UTC  

And the top is always to afraid.

2018-10-28 20:19:44 UTC  

You hear it from Ben Shapiro in his "my college professors thought I was a hard communist" stuff.