Message from @pratel

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2018-10-28 23:23:46 UTC  

Columbine was in 99

2018-10-28 23:23:52 UTC  

Don't underestimate the rise in awareness.

2018-10-28 23:24:01 UTC  

the number of incidents are being inflated to put people into a useful hysteria

2018-10-28 23:24:01 UTC  

That alone can drive the story.

2018-10-28 23:24:19 UTC  

How are they being inflated?

2018-10-28 23:24:26 UTC  

Everyone is afraid of child molestation rings. Child molestation was down since the media got into it in the 80s and has been down ever since.

2018-10-28 23:24:39 UTC  

`But NPR reached out to every one of those schools repeatedly over the course of three months and found that more than two-thirds of these reported incidents never happened. `

2018-10-28 23:24:40 UTC  

But everyone seems deathly afraid to let their kids walk around alone outside anyway.

2018-10-28 23:25:47 UTC  

Never let a crisis go to waste, and if you don't have a crisis that's just a problem of messaging.

2018-10-28 23:26:04 UTC  

The tech tyranny is probably going to come to a head because with each rule being rolled out to ban certain topics. It becomes more and more apparent that these sites are becoming less and less fun and useful. "The Good Censor" even brought this up to Google. Condemning the lack of transparency, blaming it for a lot of the backlash and even suggesting to move forward with tools to curate one's own search results.

2018-10-28 23:26:59 UTC  

I don't really see it happening. The tech giants would have to start censoring really mainline stuff and there'd have to be enough support for people to keep fighting it and not get crushed.

2018-10-28 23:27:20 UTC  

If you silence *all* dissent, you win by default.

2018-10-28 23:27:50 UTC  

I don't think a single one of them has particular affection from anyone in its userbase, though

2018-10-28 23:28:00 UTC  

They are the only options.

2018-10-28 23:28:07 UTC  

Like, there was a time you wanted your friends on Facebook

2018-10-28 23:28:08 UTC  

And they just killed off another challenger today.

2018-10-28 23:28:15 UTC  

Because it was fun

2018-10-28 23:28:35 UTC  

I'm not sure many people feel that way anymore

2018-10-28 23:28:43 UTC  

I guess. But the fact is that social media and the internet is so interwoven it's also basically impossible for people to imagine a world *without* it.

2018-10-28 23:29:06 UTC  

And there's *a lot* of code in stuff like Android. You won't just replace it.

2018-10-28 23:29:24 UTC  

It's pretty possible

2018-10-28 23:29:30 UTC  

I mean we still have places like this.

2018-10-28 23:29:37 UTC  

A lot of people still keep in touch with friends via Text, for example

2018-10-28 23:30:00 UTC  

This place is already selling games, what else might they do?

2018-10-28 23:30:04 UTC  

I'm not saying it's impossible. But I am saying you'll have a hard time getting people *off*

2018-10-28 23:30:15 UTC  

It didn't take a lot to get people to move on from MySpace

2018-10-28 23:30:17 UTC  

And like, really *off* not simply on a new platform or something.

2018-10-28 23:30:32 UTC  

Back then there were lots of options.

2018-10-28 23:30:34 UTC  

All it takes the incumbent to get lazy, which they already are

2018-10-28 23:30:48 UTC  

And then for something fresh to emerge

2018-10-28 23:30:56 UTC  

Microsoft got lazy in the 90s. They're not the monolith they once were, but they still are very much a thing.

2018-10-28 23:31:01 UTC  

Few of the alternatives at the moment are fresh

2018-10-28 23:31:10 UTC  

And are still extremely powerful.

2018-10-28 23:31:37 UTC  

And as things go along they will continue to ex-communicate people that disagree and eventually those numbers could get into the millions.

2018-10-28 23:31:57 UTC  

I don't think it'll take large numbers of excommunicated

2018-10-28 23:32:10 UTC  

It'll be much more fickle

2018-10-28 23:32:11 UTC  

Why did the media choose now to lie about them?

2018-10-28 23:32:13 UTC  

Ok. What exactly would you need for a fresh alternative. There comes a point in every new technology where things just get stale and there's not much new and exciting you can do. No one expects radical new fun out of their FM radio.

2018-10-28 23:32:26 UTC  

Is it because they need to compete with the internet?

2018-10-28 23:33:15 UTC  

@Sharpwing it's a race. You have to factor in the rate at which they get new recruits and manage to fundamentally rework the society. That rate seems much higher than the burnout rate. And many of the burnouts aren't exactly taking up arms for the other side.