Message from Faticati in Subverse #debate

2018-11-26 15:20:12 UTC  
2018-11-26 15:20:36 UTC  

Ah there we go, an s got clipped out during copy/paste

2018-11-26 15:28:32 UTC  

ok so jim told vee he was a hypocrite and your issue was?

2018-11-26 15:31:17 UTC  

As jim said “this is why I’m better than you if i have to be in the sewers to drag you in with me i don’t care”

2018-11-26 15:32:05 UTC  

Sorry jim isn’t some big brained liberalist he just wants to fuck the skeptics cuz of their incest bs

2018-11-26 15:48:51 UTC  

Vees issue was saying he has no knowledge of krauts doxing server and then later admitting full knowledge of it and being in the doxing server

2018-11-26 15:55:28 UTC  

Lol no, Jim implied Vee was responsible because his friends were in the discord (where, from what I've been hearing, the doxxing didn't actually take place) and as such Vee must have known more than he claims. Meanwhile Jim hangs out with people who assault police and sexually harass wahmen

2018-11-26 15:55:54 UTC  

Vee was saying, and I would agree, that Jim shouldn't be held responsible for people like JF and Ralph

2018-11-26 15:56:31 UTC  

And Jim made that retarded ass comment about how if money is being made you're affiliated
While Jim had been involved in IBS streams for ages
Not a good stance to take

2018-11-27 00:18:35 UTC  

@Timcast Your comment about "unfettered capitalism" and pollution is misinformed. It was government, not the market, which enabled pollution at scale into commons. Disregarding their role as arbiter of private property disputes. When people brought businesses to court over air and water pollution early in the industrial revolution it was government which said that it was OK because it was for the benefit of all.

2018-11-27 00:20:08 UTC  

It's fine if you think it'd happen even if there was free market courts but history shows that businesses got away with polluting because governments allowed it.

2018-11-27 00:28:12 UTC  

There is also the whole "pollution is stinky and people prefer their planet to not be stinky" that capitalism would eventually take care of.

2018-11-27 00:29:04 UTC  

pollution got out of hand during the industrial revolution to the early 50s partly because until then we were basically..more worried about actually eating and not dying than we were about the long term effects of industry..cause people weren't really living long enough to care.

2018-11-27 00:33:43 UTC  

Certainly that was part of it too.

2018-11-27 00:34:50 UTC  

Given pollution is subjective it was reasonable that courts ruled that say... burning wood for heat was not pollution because everyone did it and pretty much everyone accepted that as the cost of surviving.

2018-11-27 00:38:41 UTC  

Well yes, when the choice is "Die, or pollute" the second choice will always be taken

2018-11-27 00:38:58 UTC  

that is why China is currently one of the largest sources of pollution..people are choosing "Not fucking die"

2018-11-27 00:57:13 UTC  

Well, death in this case being a national kind of death, where their relevancy is destroyed and they become economically colonized by stronger powers.

2018-11-27 01:01:56 UTC  

Well no

2018-11-27 01:02:34 UTC  

I meant the low class farmers who worry about things like starving, and who want to move into the growing Chinese middle class.

2018-11-27 03:29:31 UTC  

@Beemann dont forget vee is into ageplay

2018-11-27 03:29:41 UTC  

and a bunch of other degenerate shit

2018-11-27 03:35:35 UTC  

Everyone knows Vee is a degenerate. Who gives a fuck? JF fucked a potato and Ralph assaulted an officer. Clearly Jim doesnt care about what the people he's associated with do in their spare time, he just wants Vee to hold himself to that standard

2018-11-27 03:41:20 UTC  

degenerate or deviant?
One is a moral judgement, the other is simply something outside the norm.

2018-11-27 03:41:52 UTC  

Fucking degenerate

2018-11-27 03:42:16 UTC  

Ralph was drunk and continually says he fucked up

2018-11-27 03:42:32 UTC  

Vee continually jerks it to little kids

2018-11-27 03:44:23 UTC  

@Beemann and no jim just doesn’t want people to be fucking degenerates

2018-11-27 03:44:29 UTC  

And dox people

2018-11-27 03:45:11 UTC  

And claim to have such deep and powerful principles while doing skeevy shit in the back room

2018-11-27 03:50:04 UTC  

you'd have to define "little kids"

2018-11-27 03:50:20 UTC  

some people call 16 yo's "little kids" because the legal age is 18 in their place of residence, while its perfectly legal elsewhere

2018-11-27 03:51:36 UTC  

Ralph has been a continual disappointment, including trying to get people doxxed. Who has Vee doxxed? Is there proof that Vee has a secret CP stash? Or is this more "coincidence" shit?

2018-11-27 03:59:16 UTC  

His account on some weird forum

2018-11-27 04:00:10 UTC  

so no definition to "little kids".
I'm going to assume its hyperbole and dismiss the accusations

2018-11-27 04:03:13 UTC  

It depends on the kid

2018-11-27 04:03:22 UTC  


2018-11-27 04:03:54 UTC  

oh you dont know that one? sargon's made fun of for it all the time

2018-11-27 04:03:56 UTC  

Sargon says “it depends on the child”

2018-11-27 04:05:27 UTC  

context being that ethnically and lawfully each state has its own cultural and legislative behaviors that set age restrictions for things.. especially sexual things, but that some youth are less developed/mature than others. hence it depends on the child.

2018-11-27 04:05:58 UTC  

It's obvious he's not advocating for sex with youths, but thats the joke people play on.