Message from @Stefan Payne
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Its society + Feminism.
It honestly mostly seems to be the corporate structure and lack of incentives to get involved in family-creating
Japan's got a bit of an existential crisis going on right now, from what I can tell
Yeah, that as well. Plus bleak future outlooks.
Suicide rate+lack of motivation (resulting, in some cases, in Hikkikomori) is not a good form of depopulation
they dont have enough room to maintain familys. not just future familys but even the ones they have now. this is a problem that america has to though its not quite as bad because we have a lot more room
I dont think it's limited to space issues at all
maintaining a family is more than just the nuclear family, the idea of the nuclear family is actually a foreign idea for humans that helped usher into society an idea that things could still be ok without your extended family, its no coincidence now 50 years later even that cant be achieved
```they dont have enough room to maintain familys. not just future familys but even the ones they have now. this is a problem that america has to though its not quite as bad because we have a lot more room```
America has a Problem with not enough room? Are you kidding?!
you have lots of desert and other undeveloped land....
But concentration of Population is absolutely a Problem. And I'd work towards depopulation of cities.
humans dont expand into developed land, only citys do
North America in general can support way more people than it currently does
And yet we're starting to get what Japan has
Look at Germany, that's about the size of Texas and has 80 Million people or so
we support several billion people i dont know what your talking about
yes europe is slightly more population dense than the us
U wot m8
You can't shoot in the woods in Germany.
beemann did you miss the conversation about globalism?
You want to know why?
300 mil + 100 mil + 30 mil is significantly less than 2-3bil
The continent can house and feed significantly more than it has inhabiting it
more than half of africa, quite a bit of south america, a lot of china, a lot of india
though india is slightly more supported by europe than us
Im talking about overall sustainability
your talking about sustainability without international trade
If Japan's issue was density, we wouldn't be getting the same issues
japan would have a massive population drop without trade
Not going to address my point at all?
theres more than coastline that can contstrain your populations ability to expand
We Americans need to get out of the cities
It’s killing us
There is pretty much nothing constraining expansion in NA other than people not wanting to leave cities
if the americans got out of the citys they would ruin the countryside
```We Americans need to get out of the cities```
Everyone needs to, not just the Americans.
and probably build more citys
people who live in citys are likely genetically different than people who live in countrysides even if they have the same ancestory only going back a few generations
@Arch-Fiend yes, but there’s such thing as “nuance”. More people in the countryside would probably change things but it could make the rural areas wealthier, and help reduce political radicalism as people of different backgrounds and ideas interact