lol there are more forms of socialism

The community owns the means of production

then just american left socialism

no no no

thats marxism

right-wing conservative socialism is based on the idea

I mean i just double checked

that the collective culture owns the means of the state

Socialism means the community owns the means of production

here

How would a culture own a state

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternalistic_conservatism

ur just younger

read that

That sounds interesting I’ll read up

yes

@Snow Cone I can give you a quote that explains it good

Im old now

do you want it

Im@just uneducated on political philosophies and sure

1. The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. They have greatly increased the life-expectancy of those of us who live in “advanced” countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread psychological suffering (in the Third World to physical suffering as well) and have inflicted severe damage on the natural world. The continued development of technology will worsen the situation. It will certainly subject human beings to greater indignities and inflict greater damage on the natural world, it will probably lead to greater social disruption and psychological suffering, and it may lead to increased physical suffering even in “advanced” countries.

@Snow Cone yeah that hshould help

but socialism in general

actual began as a right-wing phenomenon

during the french revolution

it was an attempt at uniting the noble classes

with the interests of peasantry in mind

Well I read the definition of it and I wholeheartedly disagree with it

to overthrow the aristocracy to establish a new cultural aristocracy

The only reason I care about open borders is because the children of illegals will grow up and vote in economically socialist policies

and if they didn't?

lol

Based on that wiki article and the excerpt you provided, it is economic socialism, as I suspected

Then i wouldnt care as much

no we're not

economic socialists lol

we're usually capitalist

It said it advocated for wealth redistributions, a large safety net, and an economic obligation to take care of one another

yeah but there are different means

t oachieving this

That isnt socialism in and of itself true