Message from @Rickard

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2018-07-07 03:18:07 UTC  

so California might have different rules from say Texas

2018-07-07 03:18:48 UTC  

btw something those two states have in common. They both like talking big, and about succession

2018-07-07 03:19:17 UTC  

aaaaaaaand they never do it, in part cause its illegal to leave the Union

2018-07-07 03:19:29 UTC  

Is it really illegal??

2018-07-07 03:20:01 UTC  

"The Constitution does not directly mention secession. ... The Supreme Court has consistently interpreted the Constitution to be an "indestructible" union. There is no legal basis a state can point to for unilaterally seceding. Many scholars hold that the Confederate secession was blatantly illegal."

2018-07-07 03:20:05 UTC  

so yes and no

2018-07-07 03:20:49 UTC  

Sounds like there is no law or chapter touching on the subject?

2018-07-07 03:20:56 UTC  

basically

2018-07-07 03:21:07 UTC  

if there is no writing forbiding it is it not then legal?

2018-07-07 03:22:06 UTC  

theoretically a state could probs but the overall Union would likely respond in a way to keep them in

2018-07-07 03:22:10 UTC  

Man that is an interesting subject, would be nice to have a lawyer pitch in

2018-07-07 03:22:14 UTC  

kinda like the Civil War

2018-07-07 03:22:37 UTC  

it was after that that we "made it" illegal

2018-07-07 03:22:43 UTC  

yea

2018-07-07 03:23:03 UTC  

Constitutional lawyer specifically

2018-07-07 03:23:10 UTC  

^^

2018-07-07 03:23:37 UTC  

"Texas v. White in 1869, the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that states cannot secede."

2018-07-07 03:23:39 UTC  

I bet there is a great and way too long ytube video on this

2018-07-07 03:23:50 UTC  

Of course it was Texas lol

2018-07-07 03:23:59 UTC  

probs

2018-07-07 03:24:04 UTC  

Haha what other state.. Alaska?!

2018-07-07 03:24:18 UTC  

"We want to go back to russia!"

2018-07-07 03:24:38 UTC  

like i said Texas and Cali are the ones that always want to succeed lol

2018-07-07 03:24:55 UTC  

Alaska dont want to go back, although Russia want them to come back kek

2018-07-07 03:24:59 UTC  

the reasources

2018-07-07 03:25:14 UTC  

And the military strategic interests..

2018-07-07 03:25:27 UTC  

Pres who bought it got shat on but place ended up being black gold

2018-07-07 03:25:33 UTC  

oh def

2018-07-07 03:25:57 UTC  

No great deed goes un-punished..

2018-07-07 03:26:16 UTC  

Hawaii we essentially conquered

2018-07-07 03:26:25 UTC  

that i havent looked into though

2018-07-07 03:27:02 UTC  

but yea Alaska got Oil so we were satisfied in the end

2018-07-07 03:27:58 UTC  

Hawaii has an indigenous population, right?

2018-07-07 03:28:09 UTC  

yea

2018-07-07 03:28:19 UTC  

we overthrew their Queen iirc

2018-07-07 03:28:23 UTC  

it was weird

2018-07-07 03:28:43 UTC  

then we just turned around and gave them statehood

2018-07-07 03:28:56 UTC  

although again i dont know that much about it

2018-07-07 03:29:10 UTC  

I have a feeling this "invasion" also created a massive lift in standard of living, but also a loss of sovereignty

2018-07-07 03:29:45 UTC  

yeaaaaa

2018-07-07 03:30:07 UTC  

I know that there are some who use it for their identity politics