Message from @pratel
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Which they won't, BTW.
They might have the arms, but thy lack the organization and intelligence.
I'd rather have established structure and Google than a single firearm.
The right has a bad habit of being completely delusional.
I don't think anyone would win a civil war, and yes the right is pretty delusional when it comes to such discussions.
(Aside: this is my criticism of Nikki Haley's recent comment about not 'triggering the libs.' I notice alot of the vocal right wing academics I know would agree with me)
But they use it as a security blanket.
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Along with naive assumptions on the free market.
It's like KiA. Everyone keeps saying how "get woke go broke" is going to kill the gaming publishers.
But The Escapist just got bought, Youtube is cracking down with the adpocalypse. Twitch isn't much better and there's not really easy-to-find alternatives to actually make the publishers go broke.
If KiA was a social justice outfit, they would have already crowdsourced and hired their own independent stack and "signal boosted" it whenever possible.
Instead, they'll just lose the new market and get replaced over time or get exhausted.
Feels like some of these differences in institutions stem from the differences in personality traits of their constituent members. Getting conservatives to work together on anything is like herding cats.
Can agree. But that's a problem on the left too.
Once a hierarchy is established it works great, but the dominance battles are fierce and destructive.
Conservatives tend to be of the "we'll find someone who will fix it for us" variety and Libertarians are to strongly "No You. Fuck You telling me what to do"
I'm not sure it's the heirarchy battles as much as it's a tendency towards apathy and an inability to recognize that sometimes you just have to sacrifice for the common good.
It's actually a coming weakness I think. As the right becomes more libertarian and the religious right fades, there will be a general shortage of footsoldiers.
Also, the left now has more money. Organization and discipline are more important than ever.
Well, every time a conservative organization forms it's denounced as 'alt right'
Left wing organizations were designated "obscene" in the 90s.
The Proud Boys could've been something good, but they've been mired in controversy and accusations of racism since day one.
I'm not sure that really matters much for the fight over the academy.
Who else is going to be shouting "THIS IS WHAT YOU DO TO US"?
What, you think there will be a false flag of some sort?
No, just that it's extremely difficult to get a conservative group together for real life activism because they get labelled racist and nobody wants to participate.
This reminds me so much of the discussions I was having about a year and a half ago in which I said silicon valley was going to play censor and Congress needed to be looking at doing something about it then.
I can get away with going to a demonstration because I'm self-employed and don't give a fuck what anyone calls me.
But anyone who works for a corp is dead meat if they show up to a conservative rally.
Not necessarily. And even if that were true, if you're in the College Republicans you're already pretty marked as is.
I mean, the kids already making "affirmative action bake sales" and running TPUSA booths are already pretty committed.
Effective messaging is hard, I will agree. But that's something the right needs to learn.
Gotta weed out the Nazi LARPers too.
Agreed. And you need a system of identification (like colorful standardized Tshirts)
The big thing the right needs to learn is how to not suffer defeat in detail every time someone speaks up.
There is a reason unions came to power once. If a whole division quits over someone being fired it makes a statement.
You're never going to get the American right to behave in such a collectivist way.
I'm not sure.
That ain't happening man.
How many fucking candidates did they have again?