Message from @Atkins

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2018-09-18 18:38:05 UTC  

A lot of these stances are old as fuck

2018-09-18 18:38:54 UTC  

>madchatter: because destroying something is a way to control it
Learned that from Paul Atreides.

2018-09-18 18:40:23 UTC  

It's just that people like to destroy all nuance and present something in pure us vs them terms

2018-09-18 18:40:41 UTC  

Dave Rubin is just about the most G-rated family friendly guy imaginable. The only remotely controversial thing you could say about him is that he's willing to talk to anyone.

2018-09-18 18:40:44 UTC  

And that then causes people to think of themselves as being part of a dichotomous conflict

2018-09-18 18:41:29 UTC  

If the SJWs & commies would actually be willing to talk to people like Rubin they might be able to actually humanize themselves but as it stands they just come off as pod people.

2018-09-18 18:42:00 UTC  

They cant afford to have reasonable discussions with people as it might cause their acolytes to lose faith in the cause

2018-09-18 18:42:42 UTC  

@TylerC >have their OWN youtube con
Wasn't that tried and it failed because someone tried to force a code of conduct with speech restrictions?

2018-09-18 18:43:00 UTC  

not sure

2018-09-18 18:43:17 UTC  

i guess milo's berkley even miiight count

2018-09-18 18:43:30 UTC  

but i would see this as needing to be away from a college campus

2018-09-18 18:43:35 UTC  

similar to the vidcon

2018-09-18 18:43:53 UTC  

just with only the "undesirables" that youtube is trying to shit on

2018-09-18 18:45:49 UTC  

if someone hosts it, people will show up

2018-09-18 18:45:53 UTC  

It could work but the people organizing and backing it would have to be 100% free speech advocates who don't care about controversy.

2018-09-18 18:46:01 UTC  

agreed

2018-09-18 18:46:04 UTC  

Someone independently wealthy who doesn't give a fuck.

2018-09-18 18:46:07 UTC  

100% they would get targeted

2018-09-18 18:46:29 UTC  

not sure who would be able to pull it off other than maybe peter tiel or someone of that level

2018-09-18 18:46:42 UTC  

just someone on that level is all i mean

2018-09-18 18:47:02 UTC  

I doubt Tiel would be interested. He'd want a safe return.

2018-09-18 18:47:05 UTC  

same

2018-09-18 18:47:20 UTC  

i dont think he would care enough about it to organize it, but i could be wrong

2018-09-18 18:47:45 UTC  

would almost say have the NRA try to put it together

2018-09-18 18:48:00 UTC  

but not sure if that might automatically screw the event

2018-09-18 18:48:17 UTC  

but it would bring out all the freedom of speechers and the gun owners to see what in the hell is up

2018-09-18 18:55:49 UTC  

it's a possibility, but people who support the NRA and people who support freedom of speech aren't entirely overlapping. while most have died of old age, there are plenty of bible-thumper paleocons out there who wouldn't want to be associated with some of the folk on *the list*

2018-09-18 18:56:31 UTC  

I hang out on AR15.com a lot and they're split roughly 50/50 over this social media censorship stuff.

2018-09-18 18:56:41 UTC  

you arent wrong there, and vice versa, buuuut, it would be a hell of a show to say, we can all stand together for our rights

2018-09-18 18:57:14 UTC  

i find that interesting about the ar15.com forums, but not overly surprising

2018-09-18 18:57:28 UTC  

it wasnt too long ago the calls for censorship were from the right

2018-09-18 18:58:55 UTC  

Their argument is a pretty typical conservative stance of "it's a free market", "private businesses should be able to do whatever they want", "just build your own" etc. Applying boilerplate ideological answers without deeper investigation of the problem.

2018-09-18 18:59:08 UTC  

agreed

2018-09-18 18:59:17 UTC  

we are getting that from both sides currently

2018-09-18 18:59:45 UTC  

4. "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."

2018-09-18 19:02:30 UTC  

ya good luck with that one

2018-09-18 19:02:31 UTC  

lol

2018-09-18 19:05:19 UTC  

"Anyone who believes X position hasn't investigated the issue"
Wew

2018-09-18 19:23:03 UTC  

project veritas released a new video today about the deep state

2018-09-18 19:53:20 UTC  

Cringy intro, not shocking content.