Message from @Tornzy

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2018-09-21 22:16:31 UTC  

Sorry but who are those again?

2018-09-21 22:16:34 UTC  

My knowledge of German politics is limited. The AFD are the anti immigration party, right? are all the other parties basically for multi-culturalism?

2018-09-21 22:17:33 UTC  

well, yes.

2018-09-21 22:17:41 UTC  

I agree some explanation would be helpful. Also, won't the other parties just gang up on them

2018-09-21 22:18:21 UTC  

merkel is the head of the "center-right" party, which was the right-most party in germany. and she let 1 million(!) refugees in the country, without any vetting.
so i'd count them as left and not center-right

2018-09-21 22:18:35 UTC  

afd on the other hand is really a rightwing party.

2018-09-21 22:19:09 UTC  

Kind of like establishment republicans who like illegal immigrant for low wages versus the trump wing?

2018-09-21 22:19:42 UTC  

i don't think they imported them for low wage jobs

2018-09-21 22:20:12 UTC  

they let them come in, because germany has to be morally superior ... to make up for their past

2018-09-21 22:20:37 UTC  

isn't merkel on the record saying that they need them as workers though?

2018-09-21 22:20:44 UTC  

yeah sure .....

2018-09-21 22:21:02 UTC  

about 5% of them are actually useable for any work

2018-09-21 22:21:30 UTC  

but that's why there's the meme with "let all the rocket scientists and doctors in" ...

2018-09-21 22:23:11 UTC  

Germany has to be morally superior to atone for their past... And so everyone ignores what they are doing in the EU

2018-09-21 22:24:29 UTC  

and to their own country. rape and violent crime is on the rise, while a rightwing party is now on second place.

2018-09-21 22:25:07 UTC  

but i'm not complaining, we already got our rightwing government in austria 😃

2018-09-21 22:26:41 UTC  

Time for the 4th Reich, one way or the other

2018-09-21 22:26:51 UTC  

They stacking the deck

2018-09-21 22:27:44 UTC  

Austria the land of KTMs.

2018-09-21 22:28:29 UTC  

and Glocks

2018-09-21 22:29:27 UTC  

you could argue the 4th reich already exists - the EU and its unelected cabinet is essentially run the way Merkel tell them to run. Germany pretty much commands the EU with minor french support.

2018-09-21 22:30:00 UTC  

and they are pushing for a unified EU-Army

2018-09-21 22:31:04 UTC  

How serious is that EU army thing?

2018-09-21 22:32:21 UTC  

Like is there any actual policy for it, or is it just a vague idea that comes up every now and then?

2018-09-21 22:34:42 UTC  

Gotta petition trump to remove troops from some of the EU and pull out of NATO before they get serious about that army and let Putin have fun poking around

2018-09-21 22:35:11 UTC  

EU ministers have announced that 25 out of 28 bloc members will participate and jointly implement military projects in the future, and will pool resources and knowledge.

The EU hopes the defence union will be complete by 2025

2018-09-21 22:37:02 UTC  

Merkel’s French counterpart Emmanuel Macron has been pushing for the creation of a combined EU military force that could be deployed to trouble spots around the world.

“I am in favor of President Macron’s proposal for an intervention initiative,” Merkel said

2018-09-21 22:37:14 UTC  

so the 2 EU rulers are already on one page on the army

2018-09-21 22:41:08 UTC  

AFD=alternative für deutschland, single issue political part that is anti immigration. SPD=sozialdemokratische Partie Deutschland, the labour/ social democrats party. Not the democratic socialists, that would be the party, Die Linke ( The left)

2018-09-21 22:44:26 UTC  

Out of curiosity, do any of the parties support freedom of speech?

2018-09-21 22:44:58 UTC  

Oh im sure they all claim to

2018-09-21 22:45:14 UTC  

Question is what their definition of free speech is

2018-09-21 22:45:58 UTC  

Right, I guess do any of them actually support Freedom of speech like in the american sense

2018-09-21 22:46:15 UTC  

Im not german, i just know a bit of the language.

2018-09-21 22:47:25 UTC  

I don't think any nation has free speech like america

2018-09-21 22:48:02 UTC  

They are all in favor of free speech, they just cant agree on the definition.

2018-09-21 22:48:10 UTC  

True @Tornzy

2018-09-21 22:48:41 UTC  

I know they don't but are parties trying to achieve that?

2018-09-21 22:48:47 UTC  

In britain Ukip is

2018-09-21 22:49:10 UTC  

If you say "Heil Hitler" in Germany or Austria, you get jail time.

2018-09-21 22:49:19 UTC  

None of them do in the american sense