Message from @pratel

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2018-10-01 09:50:19 UTC  

I'm slightly curious if Trudeau snuck any of his "feminist economics" nonsense in the deal. And I'm confused what Canada got out of the deal. There must have been *something* but it's not clear to me what it is.

2018-10-01 09:52:21 UTC  

They get the lifting of any US tariffs ... I think they had to give up some farm tariffs. It has been brutal down on the farm. I know, part owner of a farm via inheritance and the pain is here. So this should help the agri-business.

2018-10-01 09:53:58 UTC  

I should say "some" not "any"

2018-10-01 09:55:38 UTC  

But the bigger issue is still china for farmers. Soybeans at multi-year lows ... 8.44 a bushel.

2018-10-01 09:56:48 UTC  

In 2012 the high was 17.50 ... ouch. Depressed farm land values and no farmer is investing in equipment, etc ...

2018-10-01 09:59:44 UTC  

Farmers are getting prices they got back in 2006 - 12 years ago, but prices they pay have gone up 30 to 40%. Ouch!

2018-10-01 10:01:20 UTC  

But farming is only 5.5% of total US GDP, so not many care ...

2018-10-01 10:06:38 UTC  

As debt monetization starts with a vengeance soon, inflation is coming. Commodity bull market may start, though always dubious to call a bottom. Perhaps a good investment, considering everything else is so over priced.

2018-10-01 10:10:44 UTC  

Coffee, grains, sugar are all at multi-year lows. Interest rates rising. If this finally reverses people will cry to high heaven when they have to start paying a true price. People know something is about to happen, making Tim's culture war, go bananas.

2018-10-01 10:12:31 UTC  

That's interesting. Know what's driving it?

2018-10-01 10:12:47 UTC  

The Fed!

2018-10-01 10:13:48 UTC  

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2018-10-01 10:15:17 UTC  

US now pays more in interest payments than military ...

2018-10-01 10:17:46 UTC  

The US pays a \*\*\*\*ton in interest. I remember hearing that it took all taxpayers east of the Mississippi to pay the interest on the debt. And that was around 2004. We crossed the 100% Debt to GDP ratio just about as Obama was leaving (I forget the exact date, it was very early into Trump's term)

There's a reckoning coming. I can agree there.

2018-10-01 10:17:59 UTC  

Brent cude just crossed $83 a barrel. Just the start of an inflation spiral. Get ready pay. Everything goes up in price.

2018-10-01 10:18:12 UTC  

We're not as bad as Japan (>250% Debt to GDP) but things are going to get nasty.

2018-10-01 10:18:34 UTC  

Yes, I believe Japan will be ground zero for the next crisis.

2018-10-01 10:18:50 UTC  

I actually think it'll be China. But there may not be much difference.

2018-10-01 10:18:51 UTC  

That an Italy.

2018-10-01 10:19:00 UTC  

It's all going to explode.

2018-10-01 10:19:10 UTC  

And then there could very well be war.

2018-10-01 10:19:16 UTC  

True, China crashes as well. And as you say may have wider effects.

2018-10-01 10:19:50 UTC  

China and Japan are both strong enough GDP-wise to take down the whole world economy.

2018-10-01 10:19:55 UTC  

individually.

2018-10-01 10:20:15 UTC  

Italy could be a spark, but if it stays in Italy, it would be relatively confined.

2018-10-01 10:20:38 UTC  

The problem with China is that they might already be collapsing and no one would know.

2018-10-01 10:20:54 UTC  

Because the party constrains information so hevavily.

2018-10-01 10:20:56 UTC  

LOL, yes ... who can believe what they say.

2018-10-01 10:21:06 UTC  

They can't control the economy like they think they can.

2018-10-01 10:21:23 UTC  

Yes, in the end the market will win.

2018-10-01 10:21:27 UTC  

But they can kill news of collapses from the masses while the guys at the top quietly leave.

2018-10-01 10:21:46 UTC  

They killed the stock market once when it looked like things were collapsing.

2018-10-01 10:22:03 UTC  

They have a huge housing bubble right now.

2018-10-01 10:22:07 UTC  

But the Fed and other central banks are quite clever ... they have extended this current expansion longer than I thought.

2018-10-01 10:22:17 UTC  

Yeah, we're overdue.

2018-10-01 10:22:33 UTC  

Honestly, this recovery is where we should have been in 2010.

2018-10-01 10:22:34 UTC  

Trump and capitalism will get the blame.

2018-10-01 10:22:39 UTC  

Pretty much.

2018-10-01 10:22:56 UTC  

Ushering in the socialist ... only to tank it further.

2018-10-01 10:23:03 UTC  

Yep.