I still wanna know what makes the far "right" "right" in the first place

Disavowing nazi's is one thing, but actions speak louder than words. Not to mention that nazi's aren't the only far-right groups in America

I mean look at how some GOP officials are supporting the Proud Boys

Night all, thanks for the convo

@Rjfenix I don't mean you start looking into nazi ideology. I mean, you get increasingly skeptical when people throw around "nazi" and become more willing to consider the possibility they're more similar than to you than you realize.

Which is what the actual nazis want.

Far-left as in full blown socialist. These are not the majority of SJWs that are burning shit and crying like babies when they hear something they don't like. This is becoming the main left growing up right now. @Rjfenix

@Ace K and democrat lawyers are threatening judges and juries to defend ANTIFA.

disavowing nazis looks pretty hollow when you have them sieg heiling you, marching in your name, and even running as republicans in elections

@Poppy Rider I think we're talking about the same thing.

>you're responsible for everyone who likes you

you might want to examine why they like you so much lmao

>Hitler liked sugar, so you can't

Are we on the same wavelength @pratel ?

if a bunch of stalinists tried to get me elected, i'd be seriously concerned

Far-left is communism though @Poppy Rider , socialism is just left.

@shinsoo Unfortunately, there's not too much more you can really do though.

With respect to the case in Illinois everyone talks about, the local party has endorsed his opponent.

Don't you try to pull that one on me. Trying to make Nazis on the Right coz you know they were socialists. piss off with that.

@Poppy Rider not necessarily full socialist but majority socialist and social justice police.

If you're loved by Stalinists because they like your stance on healthcare or unions you're probably okay. If stalinists like you because they think you're /theirguy/ and you aren't, you're fine too

sure, but like... why do nazis love the republican party so much? best case scenario: republicans are forced to be broad tent by the two party system. worst case: they share core values and rhetoric

I don't know. But they've gone socialist.

I think the nazis are reactions to the social justice rhetoric.

So does that mean that any former KKK member who joins the dems = dems could share values with the KKK?

They have decided they're discriminated against and are repelled from the Democrats.

That's my guess.

so it's less that they love the republican party and more that they hate the social justice stuff?

We really gonna go down the guilt by tenuous association rabbit hole?

Except the Nazi's were third rail politics, and many scholars agree that the party embraced the far-right. The Nazi's purged their socialists elements in the night of the long knives.

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@pratel no the Nazis have been around since the 80's.

>third rail
They were a socialist offshoot and they couched their positions in workers rights and the good of the people

They nationalized industries and the goal of fascism in the first place was to be a "better" method of achieving a socialist state

@Rjfenix That's true. But no one really cared about them.

Actually they've existed for far longer.

Anyways, here's the thing about them going socialist.

https://www.thenation.com/article/the-racist-right-looks-left/

@Rjfenix I don't think the majority of SJWs are not 'far-left', it is becoming mainstream. As Ace said, a more accurate description of 'far' would be commies or the DSA.

they were supported by wealthy businessmen and nationalists, and privatised a shit tonne of industry

I'm not sure the historical Nazis really matter too much anymore, and certainly aren't what everyone actually cares about.

@Ace K The Nazis were practising socialism into the war. It was a workers party.

valid point lol @pratel

@pratel true the original Nazis are nearly extinct. but if the Far right and the far left realize they could come together for socialism we would have a big problem.