Message from @Ragnarok

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2019-06-29 02:14:06 UTC  

So the priest faces away until it’s time for the congregation to come and get their bread/cracker/wafer thing?

2019-06-29 02:14:15 UTC  

Uh

2019-06-29 02:14:22 UTC  

You mean the bread and wine

2019-06-29 02:14:35 UTC  

The *literal* Body and Blood of Christ

2019-06-29 02:14:44 UTC  

Oh lord...

2019-06-29 02:14:52 UTC  

That's why we kneel at the consecration

2019-06-29 02:14:53 UTC  

Yes I know it’s the body and blood of Christ.

2019-06-29 02:15:10 UTC  

But it’s bread that we see 🤣

2019-06-29 02:15:28 UTC  

Or a cracker or whatever it is. I’ve seen several kinds of things used.

2019-06-29 02:15:45 UTC  

Pinch off a piece from a loaf

2019-06-29 02:16:03 UTC  

Yeah that's when we all line up

2019-06-29 02:16:23 UTC  

Then I’ve seen a circular cracker looking thing.

2019-06-29 02:17:41 UTC  

It's wheat

2019-06-29 02:17:53 UTC  

I think the idea behind it is there's no crumbs

2019-06-29 02:18:17 UTC  

Oh I see

2019-06-29 02:18:25 UTC  

So what does your parish church do?

2019-06-29 02:18:27 UTC  

It has to be new, and for Latins it has to be unleavened

2019-06-29 02:18:32 UTC  

We do Novus Ordo

2019-06-29 02:18:42 UTC  

Appearance of the bread

2019-06-29 02:18:47 UTC  

Eastern Catholic and Eastern Orthodox use leavened bread

2019-06-29 02:18:56 UTC  

It looks like a little round disk, very thin

2019-06-29 02:18:58 UTC  

*BODY OF CHRIST* I mean

2019-06-29 02:19:19 UTC  

It looks almost like something made in a machine or artificial but they're actually really easy to make at home

2019-06-29 02:19:20 UTC  

Ah ok. So like a cracker then? Or is it soft like bread?

2019-06-29 02:19:52 UTC  

Like something in between

2019-06-29 02:20:06 UTC  

It won't *crunch* like a cracker, and there's very few crumbs

2019-06-29 02:20:20 UTC  

Also... why the requirement of being leavened or unleavened?

2019-06-29 02:20:31 UTC  

Oh. So probably more like a cookie? 🤔

2019-06-29 02:20:48 UTC  

From Catholic-Orthodox perspective it's literally the body of Christ, so that would be really shitty of us if we had crumbs everywhere and swept them on the floor and vacuumed them up and threw in the trash

2019-06-29 02:21:02 UTC  

I assume the leavening is related to the verses Remus sperged out on a few weeks ago.

2019-06-29 02:21:18 UTC  

No crumbs makes sense lol

2019-06-29 02:21:55 UTC  

In a technical sense, Mass, especially Easter, is a continuance of the Passover, and on Passover the Jews were to only eat unleavened bread

2019-06-29 02:24:47 UTC  

For the East, leavened bread symbolizes the resurrection

2019-06-29 02:25:15 UTC  

And deliberately *not* using the same type as the Passover is showing that we are part of the new covenant instead of the old one

2019-06-29 02:27:28 UTC  

Oh I see.

2019-06-29 02:28:20 UTC  

So I guess the eastern Catholics use unleavened bread then though? Because aren’t they a little different?

2019-06-29 02:28:39 UTC  

Or maybe I got that backwards....

2019-06-29 02:29:33 UTC  

Eastern Catholics use leavened bread like the Orthodox. 20 of the 23 ECs used to actually be Eastern or Oriental Orthodox

2019-06-29 02:29:38 UTC  

So they maintain the same rites

2019-06-29 02:32:29 UTC  

Yeah I remember you saying that.

2019-06-29 02:32:52 UTC  

I don’t really know the extent of what that means though 🤣