Message from @DrWittMDPhD
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Yeah there were a lot of people that were happy under stalin, that it was arguably the greatest super power known to the world at it's peak.
Communism is great isn't it?
This is your argument.
Oh yeah. And no one ever feigned happiness under threat of being killed for not following party doctrine.
In Nazi germany, everyone was a nazi
you weren't allowed to not be
Fascism was a new form of socialism, because they thought the comies were too soft on their people.
in all fairness, fascism is a more practical version of socialism
So is comunism.
Well yeah it takes into account that humans are actually humans
Communism is designed for bugs
communism is an ideal that has never been achieved
communism is the least practical
Stalinism?
Let's go with that.
5 year plans were succesful in industrialising Russia
Yeah, when you throw your civilians into a wood chipper you can get some results
USSR was not a Communist end-state. Nobody has achieved that. The boot process is fucked
All I'm saying is that Fascism fucks up countries, as much as communism does, and it's only slight better because once the initial ruler dies it falls apart.
also hitlers definition of socialism have nothing to do with communism.
Yes they were good engineers, and them having 30k ton presses was a real useful tool for their war machine, they're still an oppressive, authoritarian blight on the world.
But the good engineering was because Germans are good at it, not because the Nazis made them better.
Good for him?
And it did.
So there's that.
These soldiers aren't defending fascism, they're saying "Fuck these stupid communists they are trying to take control of Europe"
Which they were
Socialism is a derivative of communist ideals.
All socialism.
All. Of. It.
nordic coutries work based on that nazi germanys doctrine.
`The separate individuals form a class only insofar as they have to carry on a common battle against another class; otherwise they are on hostile terms with each other as competitors. On the other hand, the class in its turn achieves an independent existence over against the individuals, so that the latter find their conditions of existence predestined, and hence have their position in life and their personal development assigned to them by their class, become subsumed under it."`
>private property
>command economy
Wut
Marx on the individual
So Hitler never read Marx, what a suprise.
probably read the Jewish Question, though
The communist manifesto is but a step in individual freedom according to Marx.
Just as being subserviant to the state is a step toward individual freedom according to Mussolini and Hitler.