Message from @Stefan Payne

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2018-12-28 06:59:27 UTC  

I will point out that this is spotty territory. They may very well take some statistics out of context to prop up their claims. Anyone that has lived in America and doesnt have a particular ideological mindset will recognize this for the propoganda that it is, but many, including foreigners, might not see how damn well women are treated in the U.S.

2018-12-28 07:31:22 UTC  

@EnderOctanus is your conclusion factoring in conditions other than death, off hand I would predict alcohol and substance use rates and a state of intoxication being present in many domestic violence cases

2018-12-28 07:33:38 UTC  

@Stefan Payne are there respectable academics having public discourse that are actually making that comparison said

2018-12-28 08:55:04 UTC  

No sane person would make that comparisation and/or claim that US are particularly bad for journalists or women. On the contrary...

2018-12-28 09:19:59 UTC  

@Stefan Payne ugh...alright so, what criteria would you rank as being critical to considering when determining how to qualify dangerous? Murder/death? Stalking? Battery? Arson attempts? ?

2018-12-28 09:21:00 UTC  

Of course bodily harm, not just insults.
And I'd also mention that somewhere in the rating as well, how I'd rate it.

2018-12-28 09:21:11 UTC  

Trump calling CNN Fake News is not an act of violence.

2018-12-28 09:21:19 UTC  

Obama jailing "Journalists" is.

2018-12-28 09:21:42 UTC  

AND it has to be related to the Job and be done by other persons.

2018-12-28 09:21:54 UTC  

Ok good I got ya

2018-12-28 09:22:39 UTC  

How do you rank trump communicating that "the press is the enemy of the people" ?

2018-12-28 09:22:48 UTC  

So if 100 Journalists happen to be killed by thunder and falling trees, its not something that indicates the danger for journalists at all.
Yes, they died but due to bad luck or stupidity, not because their occupation.

2018-12-28 09:23:07 UTC  

```How do you rank trump communicating that "the press is the enemy of the people" ?```
As a true statement.

2018-12-28 09:23:44 UTC  

The Press has to side with the population and not Corporations or Gouvernment. When in reality they side with either political partys, Corporations but are against the People.

2018-12-28 09:23:53 UTC  

best example is the Pro Migration propaganda in Germany.

2018-12-28 09:24:07 UTC  

of wich some was written by the Fake Newser Claas....

2018-12-28 09:25:02 UTC  

The Press has to be at odds with the Gouvernment, but all members of gouvernment equally, not prefer someone like Killary for example. And also not lie because of something.

2018-12-28 09:25:28 UTC  

And the most important thing:
*NEVER EVER EVER should the Press propagate War!*
They should always be against it, ALWAYS.

2018-12-28 09:26:14 UTC  

I agree with a lot of that

2018-12-28 09:26:50 UTC  

What is it that they said that made the us supposedly risky for journalists ?

2018-12-28 09:28:43 UTC  

Exactly that is the question, how they came up with that shit.

2018-12-28 09:29:32 UTC  

Personally I'd rate UK far before the US and even Germany far in front. US of A is one of the freest country for "Journalists" right now.
Though they get fired left and right for obvious reasons (lets say they didn't listen to Tim P.)

2018-12-28 09:30:59 UTC  

Probably its something out of the Obama area....
You remember Obama? The one that jailed an Indian immigrant for insulting Obama...

2018-12-28 09:31:34 UTC  

The earlier link mentions the 5 ppl that died at that local Gazette, after a.lawsuit of some type he was pissed over

2018-12-28 09:32:00 UTC  

Oh yeah, totally forgot that shit show

2018-12-28 09:32:27 UTC  

IIRC news coverage of that is not as bad as Charlottesville but stil quite bad.

2018-12-28 09:32:37 UTC  

I think it was the only like, notable event

2018-12-28 09:32:58 UTC  

There were also a couple other deaths due to accident. Maybe they counted that as well

2018-12-28 09:35:29 UTC  

Ppl who have a career in publishing and broadcast news surely are being subjected to heightened attention and scrutiny. I would say

2018-12-28 09:35:35 UTC  

In the UD

2018-12-28 09:35:42 UTC  

US

2018-12-28 09:36:02 UTC  

No

2018-12-28 09:36:37 UTC  

because they are allowed to publish total lied hit pieces and misrepresent people without consequences

2018-12-28 09:37:16 UTC  

So they are getting higher scrutiny, or they aren't?

2018-12-28 09:37:59 UTC  

no, they aren't, as they are faking news and storys.

2018-12-28 09:38:11 UTC  

See the shitshow of Charlottesville.

2018-12-28 09:38:31 UTC  

What about charlottesville?

2018-12-28 09:39:21 UTC  

The Media lied and invented shit...

2018-12-28 09:40:20 UTC  

There were a couple of hard right but most people were probably not. And they hid the violence from the Antifa/Left Wing Radicals. For example the Pictures that show the Left wing thugs hitting a car that is driving towards a crowd.

2018-12-28 09:42:57 UTC  

That caused. The driver to escape them in he direction if the crowd?

2018-12-28 09:43:32 UTC