No

I mean, threatening to release a type of property (whether it's land or niggers), it annoys the owners.

I'm a Geo-Libertarian, btw, despite being a land-owner.

@H3llbender in what sense did you "used to be an ancap"?

@whiic As in quite literally a lot of georgist communes reorganized as communist communes

@halfthink Randian

Randians aren't ancap.

I'm used to talking to leftists

Ayn Rand was minarchist.

@H3llbender Rand was not an ancap, she even rejected the label "libertarian"

as you can clearly tell

...also Rand supported copyright because she was a selfish bitch who wanted monopoly of her writings.

@whiic same reason Milton was a Keynesian.

@halfthink No-one's perfect.

own work that you produced? how absurd

@whiic Hoppe comes pretty close.

Copyright is an interesting topic that we are all probably more likely to actually convince each other of

I personally think copyright is mostly obsolete now

@Unwound Well, that applies more to copyright than to land. And you can modify the land, but you didn't create it.

property rights only count for scarce resources. You can't steal am idea.

On the other hand, if copyright was a legit property, what is the libertarian argument against Cultural Appropriation?

At one point due to the scarcity of information copyright was useful to promote the distribution of IP

But that isn't quite a thing anymore

The purpose of copyright has always been the control of information.

Tim is awake

https://youtu.be/NAvbWeivv8o

Thr libertarian case against IP.

He was asking for the one *for* IP tho.

Speaking of which, Discord is absolutely proprietary

That's a contradiction. What's the communist argument for capitalism?

Nah, I was asking against. But I was particularly asking it from @Unwound because he said "own work that you produced? how absurd" and I found it a particularly retarded thing to say.

I'm definitely against intellectual monopolies, as they aren't even tangible goods but just ideas. You cannot own an idea, if you cannot even own a nigger.

Hippity hoppity.

```[Women] are “economic land,” because they are equivalent to physical land in being original, nature-given factors of production. Yet will anyone deny title to a cow to the man that finds and domesticates her, putting her to use? For this is precisely what occurs in the case of land. Previously valueless “wild” land, like wild animals, is taken and transformed by a man into goods useful for man. The “mixing” of labor gives equivalent title in one case as in the other.

-Murray N. Rothbard.```

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyS1j2EeSrc

Always funny how we go to the past for the reasons to move forward and ignore the present for reasons to do the same.

I think TP underestimates what's going on in the true alt-right. Richard Spencer's channel and discord server are only growing, and the Murdoch Murdoch crew is as popular as ever.

https://youtu.be/5PbMzuweaEc

Basic copyright seems necessary when it comes to art.
Personally, I would be willing to give up "art as we know it" for fully open source society, but I imagine professional artists being upset over this.
When it comes to science there is both big pros and cons.
But with recent Youtube policy of demonetizing videos for having seconds of other person's footage, which used to fall under "fair use", I think pretty much everyone (except big corporations) is in favor of reducing copyrights.

I don't think art will die if copyright did.

and plop https://pastebin.com/nHD257Af